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Which is best option? Get a new modern wiring harness like American Autowire (which included modern connections for things like HID lighting, heavier gauge wire) or the original systems intargrated wired into a LS harness? I plan on a LS swap anyway and my car needs an updated wiring harness. I was considering a Speartech ECM and harness.

Thanks
 
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How is you old harness incorperated into the LS harness?
It's not, this is totally stand alone, except for the ignition wire, and a full time hot. That's the only place I tapped the stock harness.

Which is best option? Get a new modern wiring harness like American Autowire (which included modern connections for things like HID lighting, heavier gauge wire) or the original systems intargrated wired into a LS harness? I plan on a LS swap anyway and my car needs an updated wiring harness. I was considering a Speartech ECM and harness.

Thanks
Speartech is good, but pricey......I would try to find a stock harness and just change it out......much easier to unplug and plug it back in the same spot...

Look at my build thread, stickied in this section, it gives you a good source for an ECM and harness.....

T,
 
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Originally Posted by MM2364
How is you old harness incorperated into the LS harness?

It's not, this is totally stand alone, except for the ignition wire, and a full time hot. That's the only place I tapped the stock harness.

T,
Well, that answers one of the questions that I had already thought ahead to. Simplifies the heck out of a couple of issues. :D
 
Thanks Tom

Thanks again Tom
As always great info.

Next question the LS1/LS6 engine I ordered (the block I beleive is a 2000-01 camaro) with a LS6 heads and intake. Do I need to match the harness to the camaro year or wait to look at the harness conections because the LS6 parts were added later? Before I buy a used harness that is.

which leads me to the throttle pedal question. The engine has a cable throttle body and i'll need a cable style pedal for my Gen II nova, any good matches? (would the camaro 98-02 work?) as you know my cars has the old linkage throttle system now.

Thanks, I'll have to give you my SSN so you can clain me on your taxes soon:rolleyes:
 
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Thanks again Tom
As always great info.

Next question the LS1/LS6 engine I ordered (the block I beleive is a 2000-01 camaro) with a LS6 heads and intake. Do I need to match the harness to the camaro year or wait to look at the harness conections because the LS6 parts were added later? Before I buy a used harness that is.

which leads me to the throttle pedal question. The engine has a cable throttle body and i'll need a cable style pedal for my Gen II nova, any good matches? (would the camaro 98-02 work?) as you know my cars has the old linkage throttle system now.

Thanks, I'll have to give you my SSN so you can clain me on your taxes soon:rolleyes:

99 to 02 harness is the same, you just get the pinout diagram for the year, or just use the ones I provided and make it a 2000, all the engine plugs are the same.

Look at my build, you can use the stock pedal, and a Lokar cable. Might want to switch the arm to a 6 cylinder, as it is straight, and will clear the intake. The Lokar pedal and cable comes out behind the valve cover and saws at the cable liner inside the firewall.

T,
 
Figured I should come back and report on my success with the wiring harness. I have my Nova with 408 LS1 conversion up and running now. There was only one problem with my wiring harness, and it might be a good review for other folks that have to trouble shoot. After I got my new engine running it occasionally started missing - as in a very noticeable dead miss. I first thought it was one or more plugs getting fouled, but eventually I realized it was the whole passenger side - all 4 cylinders were loosing spark. If I "adjusted" the connector for the passenger side coil harness, it would fire again. When I took the coil harness connector apart, I found that a couple of the prongs (end prongs on bottom row) were flatened - just a little:

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After bending these prongs back out, I haven't had any more problems with 12v power loss to the passenger side coils. A problem in these sealed plugs can be very difficult to find. Probably a better option would be to replace the plug with a new pigtail - available on Ebay.
 
I'm almost done with mine, and I gotta say that without this thread, I would have been completely lost. Anyone who is thinking about doing this on their own, I'd strongly advise you to do it!!! You'll know every single thing about your harness and sensors.

Thanks Tom for making this thread!! YOU DA MAN!!!:yes:
 
Bringing up this oldie but goodie thread.

The TCC Brake Switch is used to lock/unlock the automatic transmissions, but what if you are using a manual transmission? What does it do then?

I am told the PCM still needs to know when the brake is applied but is this really necessary? Could I just run this hot when the ignition is on? If I really need it I will wire it up the way it is supposed to be.

Cheers
Bret
 
Discussion starter · #50 · (Edited)
Bringing up this oldie but goodie thread.

The TCC Brake Switch is used to lock/unlock the automatic transmissions, but what if you are using a manual transmission? What does it do then?

I am told the PCM still needs to know when the brake is applied but is this really necessary? Could I just run this hot when the ignition is on? If I really need it I will wire it up the way it is supposed to be.

Cheers
Bret
If using a manual harness, you won't have a TCC control wiring at all...If you are using an auto harness for a manual trans, you will have to have your tuner turn off the parameters in the tune file, then it will do nothing.

The PCM will sense deceleration through the VSS (brakes applied) on either one.....you might be thinking of the CAGS solenoid for a manual, if you are running a six speed......you didn't say what type of manual trans you are referring to.

T,
 
For all the LS Guys

Great "OLD" thread. Had to subscribe myself even though mine is wired up in my Chevelle already, got a 71 Nova and a LS-1 might be coming together next year???????????????:rolleyes:TURBO????????????????????TURBOS?????:rolleyes:
 
Hi Tom. I'm about to start my harness modification and have a couple of questions:

-My engine is a 5.3 with LS6 intake. I will be running t56 trans. My harness came from the 5.3. I am using Fbody accessories and placing PCM underdash. Would I be better served to buy a car harness to start with or can I just modify the truck harness?

-I have seen two approaches to getting correct sensor lengths. One approach is to cut the harness in the middle. Connect all pigtails to engine and place the PCM in the correct location and adjust wire lengths in the middle. Another approach is to leave all wires connected and splice near the connector as needed. Do you see one approach as significantly easier than another?
 
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Hi Tom. I'm about to start my harness modification and have a couple of questions:

-My engine is a 5.3 with LS6 intake. I will be running t56 trans. My harness came from the 5.3. I am using Fbody accessories and placing PCM underdash. Would I be better served to buy a car harness to start with or can I just modify the truck harness?

-I have seen two approaches to getting correct sensor lengths. One approach is to cut the harness in the middle. Connect all pigtails to engine and place the PCM in the correct location and adjust wire lengths in the middle. Another approach is to leave all wires connected and splice near the connector as needed. Do you see one approach as significantly easier than another?
What year/type PCM do you have? Later model trucks are 58X reluctor and the pin outs are no where close to the car harness. In the long run it would be easier to get a car harness for a t-56, it is going to save you and your tuner a bunch of headaches, especially if you are not too familiar with the nuances of removing the auto connector, install the CAGS solenoid, skip shift etc...not to mention your tuner is going to have to reflash your PCM and do some segement swaps to get it to work, as your injector scaling will be different from car to truck....

Best approach is to mark and de pin the harness and make the connections/extensions along the wiring where needed. You want to avoid making them in one spot or you will wind up with a big wad of wire in one place, as you are adding to the overall diameter of each wire....

T,
 
Need some help identifying these terminals please. I am redoing some wiring on the fuse block and I would like to put new terminals. I just cannot seem to find the exact name for these terminals. Anybody know by any chance where I can find these?

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Thank you
 
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