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I dug out some old '65 windlace I had that were originally beige but had been painted black. I have
no idea what type paint was used but it came off pretty easy with some Eastwood Paint Prep and
a burgundy scrub pad so now I'm back to the original color.

I am installing original black interior and need to repaint the windlace black again. Does anyone
know of a good quality plastic type paint that will work with these originals? Also, what do I need to
do in order to prep the plastic to accept the paint?

I'd welcome any suggestions on a black paint that anyone has used. Thanks!
Sam
 

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I have used SEM products with great results and Bulldog paint adhesion spray in a rattle can. I found these products at a the local automotive paint supplier. also SEM makes a great cleaner!!
 

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SEM prep and paint works very well on plastic and other interior materials.

I dont know about other years/gens but 3rd gen aftermarket “molded” windlaces are pieces of crap! I bought and returned 2 pairs of unacceptable new ones...absolute junk. I ended up buying a roll of universal windlace and cutting it to length. It looks “ok” but not anywhere near restoration quality.
 

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I dug out some old '65 windlace I had that were originally beige but had been painted black. I have
no idea what type paint was used but it came off pretty easy with some Eastwood Paint Prep and
a burgundy scrub pad so now I'm back to the original color.

I am installing original black interior and need to repaint the windlace black again. Does anyone
know of a good quality plastic type paint that will work with these originals? Also, what do I need to
do in order to prep the plastic to accept the paint?

I'd welcome any suggestions on a black paint that anyone has used. Thanks!
Sam
consider using the original windlace.

though other brands may differ, the new stuff from J&W Nova Parts does not look the same, nor is it the correct size (much smaller than '66, not sure what '65 is like). and the red color looks cheesy compared to the original. plus, it's kind of ripply where the metal is imprenated, which looks lame compared to the OG lacing. of course, personal opinion.

on the color change front, i had good results with the aerosol wax/grease remover, paint prep, and dupli-color paint. will check on the brands tomorrow, but everything was from local Advance Auto.

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I am sorry, I read slow so I dint read all the posts, my bust.
The wind less color is a major interior choice. I am dumb when it comes to the inside. JR

Oh.. Say its a light inside make the wind less a lil darker. Its trim after all. JR
 

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I'm a huge SEM paint fan but I think your way over thinking this. You'll have more money in paint than new windlace. Not to mention your time. Concourse restoration is one thing but...
 

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^^^^^^^ What he said. More time and money into painting. You would probably have to order the paint. Order the wind lace and it will arrive in the same time frame and you will have a product that will never chip or scratch or need touch up.
 

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OK guys, I understand what you are saying but.....The windlace that is being offered is a very thin type compared to the
original windlace that came in the car. I stuck some of the new windlace on the pinch weld and it did not fill the gap between
the windlace and the stainless that holds the side glass gasket. The original is fairly wide and when I pushed it onto the pinch
weld it filled the gap. I have to leave home right now for a family reunion but I'll take some photos and post when I get back so you
can see what I'm talking about.
 
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I understand. Many times I have refurbished original because the replacement parts just don't look or fit the same. The SEM products are the best on the market, I think. Do the prep work and it will turn out great.
 

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OK guys, I understand what you are saying but.....The windlace that is being offered is a very think type compared to the
original windlace that came in the car. I stuck some of the new windlace on the pinch weld and it did not fill the gap between
the windlace and the stainless that holds the side glass gasket. The original is fairly wide and when I pushed it onto the pinch
weld it filled the gap. I have to leave home right now for a family reunion but I'll take some photos and post when I get back so you
can see what I'm talking about.
that's precisely my point: it is not the same size.

i would "dye" the original.

if prepared correctly, the $6 Duplicolor will adhere just as well. my windlace was $35 plus any shipping. you should be able to get this done for under $20 and it will fit correctly, look good, and take very little effort.

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I understand everyone's point of view. I'm an almost perfectionist but some things just can't be perfection no matter how
hard we try. I stopped at O'Reillys on the way home to look at what they have. They did have the Dupli-Color black HVP104
Gloss and the HVP106 Flat. After I got home I looked for a Vinyl and Fabric Dupli-color in Satin or Semi-gloss but they don't
exist. I took my rear glass trim out and looked at it and it looked like a satin finish.

I looked at SEM products on Amazon and found that SEM sells a Satin Black Vinyl paint 15243. At this point I'm determined
to put my originals on after being prepped and painted. Just got to figure out which I want to go with.

Probably won't be able to match anything to the interior window trim. Trying to match paint to the rear glass trim is probably
going to be a game of futility. I don't mind spending a few dollars in order to get something that looks correct though. I'd still
like to hear from the guys that have used the SEM products about prepping the windlace and what you used.

To help settle the ideas on the windlace, I took a couple of photos of the GMclassic windlace 69109-3 and the original so you
guys can see how much difference there is. Mind you now, these came off of a '65 so I can't attest to what is correct for the
earlier models.

BOTH WINDLACES -COMPARE 1.jpg

BOTH WINDLACES -COMPARE 2.JPG
 

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This thread prompted me to pull all my original windlace out of the trunk. I'm glad I saved it. It looks like crap but after I rubbed the gooey black stuff off it looked great and fit perfect. I will be painting it without a doubt. My interior was a forest green I believe, but going black. I've heard too many stories of repop that fits bad.
 

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OK guys, I understand what you are saying but.....The windlace that is being offered is a very think type compared to the
original windlace that came in the car. I stuck some of the new windlace on the pinch weld and it did not fill the gap between
the windlace and the stainless that holds the side glass gasket. The original is fairly wide and when I pushed it onto the pinch
weld it filled the gap. I have to leave home right now for a family reunion but I'll take some photos and post when I get back so you
can see what I'm talking about.

Well, I bought a windlace set from the top notch company. .They are tight, you just need to set them in the channel and in the sun if you have some. JR
 

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JR, what company did you buy yours from? Do you have a part number available? I always look at all the options and yours
has become one. When you say tight are you saying they are tight slipping onto the pinch weld or tight in the space between
the pinch weld and the outer part of the roof line where the stainless mounts to the door opening? I'm curious. Below are photos
of the 69109-3 and the original windlace mounted on the pinch weld so you can see the spacing. The original takes up all the
space whereas the 69109-3 does not.


69109-3 FITMENT 2.jpg

ORIGINAL WINDLACE FITMENT 2.jpg
 

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Update: FYI, I went with Dupli-color because it was available at O'Reilly Auto.
Gloss Black HVP-104 Dupli-Color
PS-200 Grease & Wax Remover
CP199 Adhesion Promoter
Windex and a lot of scrubbing with lintless cloth.

I followed your instructions on cleaning the windlace so I have high hopes it'll stick and last for many years with
care.

This is what it looks like. I'm satisfied. It matches the front and rear headliner plastic trim pretty good. Not perfect but
as good as it's gonna get. Thanks for helping me through another part of my project.
Sam

ORIGINAL REPAINTED 1.jpg

ORIGINAL REPAINTED 2.jpg
 
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