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Ok.. Im gonna drop the hammer. Ive been looking high and low for some 13" disc brakes for my 62 with MII front. Ive actually checked it all. Saw some nice setup where you can use the Cobra 13" system. The guy makes the brackets and he gives the instructions to use the cobra brakes on the MII spindle. But you have to use the early ford drum hubs. They use the same bearings as the MII spindle and mount up to the cobra discs. But HEAVY is the key word. Full cast iron disc and steel hub. Its pretty inexpensive as far as 13" brakes go but pretty close in cost.

So then there is the CPP 13" setup. They use a full cast iron disc too and some cadillac escalade calipers ( as far as I have come up with, not for certain, CPP?) What I really like is the ability to use off the shelf pads when its time to change. But after checking the diameter its giving me .001" of clearance to remove the wheel. I have billet specialties 17" wheels and the center rib (two inches wide is all) on the wheel is 15". It opens up past that rib so the wheel wouldnt be spinning that close. But I dont think I can get my wheel over the caliper.

So I was looking for a cost effective way to stuff some 13" discs on the front and came up with the less expensive route. Wilwood.

So Im gonna drop the hammer this monday unless I hear some alternative responses or negative issues with the system.

I am gonna go with the 13"x 1.10" black E-coat disc, zinc is 50 bucks more. Four piston forged superlite calipers and a zero offset hub. All the bearings and seals and everything needed including the custom zero offset bracket. Its a kit.

Now the kicker is Im spending 300 bucks more for the zero offset. Because its not a off the shelf item it doesnt get the high volume discount. But I really need that zero offset cause I bought my wheels already for the granda 11" discs that are on it already. And I really cant move the wheel out the additional .680" Which sucks cause for the same money I could have the 6 piston superlites. They are a off the shelf deep discount item. And I crunched the numbers. I could buy the off the shelf 6 piston setup along with the zero offset hubs but I would be left with 300 dollars of new hubs (off the shelf hubs) to try and sell. I could make the bracket myself..

But Im thinking the 4 piston forged superlites are gonna suit the needs. And really, I would have jumped on the CPP setup for half the money. But the calipers are so tall they just wont clear the 17" BS wheels. What a shame...

So anyway.. Whadda you think???? The superlites? They are the forged superlites. Any reviews?? Anyone using them.

This is dipping into my budget. I have X amount of money to finish the car. I dont see any other work around besides the wilwoods. Any feedback would ease my mind at this point guys.. JR
 

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Ok.. Im gonna drop the hammer. Ive been looking high and low for some 13" disc brakes for my 62 with MII front. Ive actually checked it all. Saw some nice setup where you can use the Cobra 13" system. The guy makes the brackets and he gives the instructions to use the cobra brakes on the MII spindle. But you have to use the early ford drum hubs. They use the same bearings as the MII spindle and mount up to the cobra discs. But HEAVY is the key word. Full cast iron disc and steel hub. Its pretty inexpensive as far as 13" brakes go but pretty close in cost.

So then there is the CPP 13" setup. They use a full cast iron disc too and some cadillac escalade calipers ( as far as I have come up with, not for certain, CPP?) What I really like is the ability to use off the shelf pads when its time to change. But after checking the diameter its giving me .001" of clearance to remove the wheel. I have billet specialties 17" wheels and the center rib (two inches wide is all) on the wheel is 15". It opens up past that rib so the wheel wouldnt be spinning that close. But I dont think I can get my wheel over the caliper.

So I was looking for a cost effective way to stuff some 13" discs on the front and came up with the less expensive route. Wilwood.

So Im gonna drop the hammer this monday unless I hear some alternative responses or negative issues with the system.

I am gonna go with the 13"x 1.10" black E-coat disc, zinc is 50 bucks more. Four piston forged superlite calipers and a zero offset hub. All the bearings and seals and everything needed including the custom zero offset bracket. Its a kit.

Now the kicker is Im spending 300 bucks more for the zero offset. Because its not a off the shelf item it doesnt get the high volume discount. But I really need that zero offset cause I bought my wheels already for the granda 11" discs that are on it already. And I really cant move the wheel out the additional .680" Which sucks cause for the same money I could have the 6 piston superlites. They are a off the shelf deep discount item. And I crunched the numbers. I could buy the off the shelf 6 piston setup along with the zero offset hubs but I would be left with 300 dollars of new hubs (off the shelf hubs) to try and sell. I could make the bracket myself..

But Im thinking the 4 piston forged superlites are gonna suit the needs. And really, I would have jumped on the CPP setup for half the money. But the calipers are so tall they just wont clear the 17" BS wheels. What a shame...

So anyway.. Whadda you think???? The superlites? They are the forged superlites. Any reviews?? Anyone using them.

This is dipping into my budget. I have X amount of money to finish the car. I dont see any other work around besides the wilwoods. Any feedback would ease my mind at this point guys.. JR
Jay,

I have the SL6's on my mustang and on the Nova but since the Nova isn't operational I can only comment on how they work on the mustang.

They are amazing brakes for sure. I can stop on a dime and I MEAN on a dime literally! They are the best brake I've ever had! The 4 pistons should be plenty unless you will be running road course for hours on end. Then I would be concerned with brake fade but you would have to be on the brakes HARD for those few hours.

If the Black E-Coat is costing you extra don't get it. As far as I know, they will rub off after the first few miles. They look really cool but are shortlived.

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I have the 4 piston Superlites with a zero offset hub also. They stop great with no booster. I have dynalites in the rear and they look very small, glad I went with the super's.:yes: When I compared it all out the extra was worth it to me just because they looked alot better with my open wheels than the cpp stuff. Who is making the zero offset setup for you, Hotrods Usa?


I had to move the calipers to the front of the wheel compared to where they are in this photo because they hit the upper control arm at full lock. Another problem I had was the WW hub stuck out too far and I had to get a bigger center cap made for my wheels and eventually had to get a 1/4" spacer to make it fit.



 

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Jay,

I have the SL6's on my mustang and on the Nova but since the Nova isn't operational I can only comment on how they work on the mustang.

They are amazing brakes for sure. I can stop on a dime and I MEAN on a dime literally! They are the best brake I've ever had! The 4 pistons should be plenty unless you will be running road course for hours on end. Then I would be concerned with brake fade but you would have to be on the brakes HARD for those few hours.

If the Black E-Coat is costing you extra don't get it. As far as I know, they will rub off after the first few miles. They look really cool but are shortlived.

John
Cool thanks. No, the E-coat is standard now. Its the Zinc coated discs that are fifty bucks more. Id rather have the zinc I think. Dunno. Thanks for the info. JR
 

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I have the 4 piston Superlites with a zero offset hub also. They stop great with no booster. I have dynalites in the rear and they look very small, glad I went with the super's.:yes: When I compared it all out the extra was worth it to me just because they looked alot better with my open wheels than the cpp stuff. Who is making the zero offset setup for you, Hotrods Usa?


I had to move the calipers to the front of the wheel compared to where they are in this photo because they hit the upper control arm at full lock. Another problem I had was the WW hub stuck out too far and I had to get a bigger center cap made for my wheels and eventually had to get a 1/4" spacer to make it fit.
Ok, now this is a lil troublesome. yeah, HRs USA. The hub nose looks to hang way out there. You wouldnt have a measurement from the wheel mounting surface to the top of the dust cap would ya???????? I just measured my wheel. I can fit 3" of hub nose in there. Whatcha think????

Now, I dont wanna run the brakes in front of the spindle. What kind of front suspension do you have?? I have a mustang II with TCI tubular arms... Hmmm.. So glad for the response. This is the kind of stuff I was afraid of.... JR
 

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I love my Willwoods i wish i went larger in the rear they are look very nice thru the wheels.

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Yer car looks GREAT... Nice suspension pieces ya got there.. Thanks, JR
 

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Ok, now this is a lil troublesome. yeah, HRs USA. The hub nose looks to hang way out there. You wouldnt have a measurement from the wheel mounting surface to the top of the dust cap would ya???????? I just measured my wheel. I can fit 3" of hub nose in there. Whatcha think????

Now, I dont wanna run the brakes in front of the spindle. What kind of front suspension do you have?? I have a mustang II with TCI tubular arms... Hmmm.. So glad for the response. This is the kind of stuff I was afraid of.... JR
Well the problem I had is there is not a zero offset kit for the stock suspension which is what I have. I am using a 5 lug drum spindle and the cpp upper and lowers. I would probably guess and say the Mustang II stuff is probably more readily available in a zero offset. Dean at Hotrods was okay to work with even though it took almost 6 months to finally get everything correct.
 

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Well the problem I had is there is not a zero offset kit for the stock suspension which is what I have. I am using a 5 lug drum spindle and the cpp upper and lowers. I would probably guess and say the Mustang II stuff is probably more readily available in a zero offset. Dean at Hotrods was okay to work with even though it took almost 6 months to finally get everything correct.
YIKES!!! 6 MONTHS?:eek: That's a long time!!!:(

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YIKES!!! 6 MONTHS?:eek: That's a long time!!!:(

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Half the problem is it takes about a week to get to me from the west coast. Then I don't get to the garage for a day or two, find out it does not work. Make the call, a week for a new bracket, week to ship, etc, etc. After two or three times of this about two months have gone by. Factor in a week vacation on my part and a few busy weekends you get the idea.:D If I had to do it again I would of just got the regular brakes with the offset and had the wheels made to fit that rather than vice versa.
 

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Half the problem is it takes about a week to get to me from the west coast. Then I don't get to the garage for a day or two, find out it does not work. Make the call, a week for a new bracket, week to ship, etc, etc. After two or three times of this about two months have gone by. Factor in a week vacation on my part and a few busy weekends you get the idea.:D If I had to do it again I would of just got the regular brakes with the offset and had the wheels made to fit that rather than vice versa.

Whew!!! For a second there I thought there was gonna be some shipping issues. Im actually tearin into the front right now anyway so I have some time. Looking good and monday Ill cal Dean.. Thanks guys..

Oh and John, the margarita is going down pretty good about now, Ahhhh :) Could use some spicy salsa and chips though.. Hmmm..
 
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