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I am working on a 72 nova. It has 3.73 rears, super T-10, cal traction, 28-9-15 et slicks etc.
If you had a 7000 dollar budget for the motor to build a 10 second car, and it had to be a small block what would you build or buy. Given you already had a set of pro 1 215 heads and air gap intake. Please include cam specs, compression, nitrous or not etc.

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I ran 10s with a basic 406 and edelbrock aluminum circle track heads, victor jr, 8.8/1 comp, flat tappet hyd cam, th350 3500 stall, 3.73 rear and a 100 shot. Car was 3375#.

If you want to run on motor then you need to invest in a roller cam and good valvetrain, that can add alot to the cost, or just slap on a plate and build a basic 400 hp motor flat tappet cam,easy 10's. The T10 might have durability, and consistency issues though
 

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t-10

The t-10 is brand new with scatter shield, so I will run it till it breaks then it's automatic time.
 

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build a 421 with a nice block and scat 4340 rotater . make it near 11.1 compression (use 91octane for street and keep your foot out of it) ..then get a mild roller cam =255 @.050 and .620 lift . 110lsa

Remember ,a nitrous kit is cheap .Build your bottom end strong NOW ,then if it doesnt run the # ,buy a kit .
 

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I ran 6.50s at 105 in the 1/8 mile with a 1.41 60 with a mild tune and pump gas and no power adder with my 434 sbc in a 72 nova. if you need help pm me ill do what i can.
 

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www.speedwaymotors.com/world-454-small-block-chevy-crate-short-block,8735.html


454 small block short block 4,600.00
your 215cc pro1 heads
cam crane flat tappet- mech.244/252 - .516/.525 lift - 106 lobe seperation
1.5 roller rockers
1 3/4 headers
victor jr intake
950hp carb.
good msd ignition 34 degrees total timing

you will have 500 pounds of torque at 3000 and pull 600 horses at 6400rpm

you will be able to run pump gas, keep your rear gear, and at 6400rpm you would be near 140 on your 28 inch tire. to run a 10.5 you need 130mph, 600 horses, and 3500 pound car. the coated pistons would also like a small shot of fun juice down the road if you like..

p.s. on this motor a bigger intake valve would be better than the 2.05 that the pro1's have

hope this helps
 

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A mild 383 with a shot of nitrous could be done for way less than $7000

x2 if you want to save some money


i found this article...383 cruise night special
350 4 bolt block .030 over
10.4 comp.
37 degrees timing
forged crank
6 inch rods
forged pistons
cam crane mech. roller 240/248 - .543/.561 -110 lobe seperation
1.5 rockers
dart pro1 heads[ thats perfect]
super victor intake
750 mighty demon
msd 6al
1 3/4 headers

torque 450 ft. at 3000,506 at4900
horsepower 530 at 5900 at 6300 only 3 horse loss

you could build this with a local machine shop for way less than the other motor i put on here, its an exact match for your heads, and you could spray it into the high 9's


finding a combo that works in a magazine and a book sure helps. you can play around forever with cams and other parts trying to maximize performance. if you find one that will get you were you want copy it to the T. dont use different heads, cams ect or you wont get that exact result. this motor is a great match for your gears and tans as well. it comes on hard at 3000
 

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I am working on a 72 nova. It has 3.73 rears, super T-10, cal traction, 28-9-15 et slicks etc.
If you had a 7000 dollar budget for the motor to build a 10 second car, and it had to be a small block what would you build or buy. Given you already had a set of pro 1 215 heads and air gap intake. Please include cam specs, compression, nitrous or not etc.

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427 sbc. That is what I had in my wagon. And it ran consitant low 10's. It had a roller cam in it that spect(If I rember correct)out to be 272/278 and duration was 670+range. For a intake I was running a Super Victor E and for a carb I was running a 750 holley that had been reworked to flow 1000cfm. And for head's I was running Dart Pro 1's with "215" runner's. This was a NA motor. Oh yea the motor had 12.5 to 1 comperssion and I was running 110 octane race fuel.
 

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i think,,

i would pull the 4 speed set up and sell it for funds for an auto myself, ,

I think i would build a 406 if i could find a good block ,

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/...CHEVY-BLOCK-.30-OVR-CLEARED-FOR-3.81-STR.html
look at this add for a 434 rotator , if you want flat pistons you might be able to mill off the domes if they're not hollow
http://www.racingjunk.com/category/1365/Rotating_Assemblies/post/1565163/cheap-434-rotate-.html

i'd get a solid roller like this if you come up with about 11-11.5-1 comp , small base circle for this imaginary stroker we're putting together
http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=1809&gid=250

i like this intake myself, , i've had people at the TRACK , not dyno cowboys tell me this intake picked their car up from 283 gear jammers to 400 + cube dirt trackers
http://www.holley.com/300-25.asp

i've never heard a bad comment about these carbs
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLY-0-81870/
 

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im not sure if your wanting an all race setup or if you want it a little more streetable ? my suggestions were for pump gas, and the spring rates arent to rediculouse so you wouldnt have a whole lot of maintenance . they are also more mid rpm motors for street and race so you will be easier on stuff. you dont need a high rpm motor unless you want to change your gearing

how heavy is your car with you in it?



p.s. little red wagon had a good setup that sounds like it worked if you want to run 110. if thats what your wanting you could copy his setup, and it will be easier to tune because he could tell you anything about that combo.
 

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setups

Thanks everyone for the info. It is good to hear about proven setups. CNC has suggested their 415 cubic inch, mech roller 11.1 compression. Any more suggestions? All are welcome.

tumblebug

74 nova 408
11.7 1/4

72 nova ???
hope 10 flat on pinks:yes:
 

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I am working on a 72 nova. It has 3.73 rears, super T-10, cal traction, 28-9-15 et slicks etc.
If you had a 7000 dollar budget for the motor to build a 10 second car, and it had to be a small block what would you build or buy. Given you already had a set of pro 1 215 heads and air gap intake. Please include cam specs, compression, nitrous or not etc.

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Sell the trans, heads and intake. Put a big block and TH400 and call it good. You could build 2 high horse BB's for the price small block to keep up with 1 of those BB's. And why constantly be dealing with clutch crap. Nothing personal to you or Aron...:devil::stir::devil::stir::cool:
 

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well,,,,

shame on you for such a suggestion

not that i don't like the 4 speed ,,, but why try to bust it , take a chance on wrecking the car ,,, who knows what might happen in the " gear oil all over the rear tires " senario

I enjoy hearing a 4 speed car jam through the gears. ,,,,,, alot more than ,,,whhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,Ahhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

of a power glide car going down the track ,,lol

if you come out holding the car around 4000 or so ,, it may not break ,,
 

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small block

A big one..
looking at 396 .030 over 350
3.875 crank
6" rods
13:1 forged pistons
dart platnium pro 215 heads
small base solid roller cam
team G intake
850 ish holley
oh yea on 100 octane aviation gas
If I had 13,000 I just buy a 572 crate motor and call it done
 

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dart platnium pro 215 heads
A buddy of mine had these heads, and I must say I was very disappointed with the casting quality. I'd rather see you buy a CNC head, like the Dart 227 or Brodix Track 1 227. The Brodix's can be had from STS porting services fully furnished with .700" lift roller springs and the whole 9 for $2250.

I would also opt for a Brodix HV1000 or a ported Super Victor. Never been a fan of Weiand stuff...

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I've got a real nice 383 short block I am selling. New Bowtie block, Scat Lightweight forged crank, Manley forged rods, Lunati custom forged pistons, coated bearings, Melling pump, Moroso pan, etc. Assembled, brand new. I've got pictures also. Email me if you are interested. [email protected]
 
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