here is the vin tag from that wagon.
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strange cowl tag
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I've never seen a 2nd generation cowl tag like this. First, there doesn't appear to be a body build date. Second, the #2 Fisher body sequence
number is the lowest I've ever seen. Third, I've never seen a 2nd generation Willow Run tag where they used the actual RPO numbers for options -
A33 = Power tailgate, A39 = Custom seat belts, D33 = Remote mirror. The model number denotes a 100 Series V/8 wagon, but no guaranty it
really was a V/8, because all Fisher tags of this era were stamped as 8 cylinder. The VIN plate is impossible to read, except what appears to
3 ones at the beginning. The '110 volt wire' note is a complete mystery and again, I've never seen anything like this before.
Was there any more information or pictures on Facebook?
Bob
number is the lowest I've ever seen. Third, I've never seen a 2nd generation Willow Run tag where they used the actual RPO numbers for options -
A33 = Power tailgate, A39 = Custom seat belts, D33 = Remote mirror. The model number denotes a 100 Series V/8 wagon, but no guaranty it
really was a V/8, because all Fisher tags of this era were stamped as 8 cylinder. The VIN plate is impossible to read, except what appears to
3 ones at the beginning. The '110 volt wire' note is a complete mystery and again, I've never seen anything like this before.
Was there any more information or pictures on Facebook?
Bob
Fire Dept. vehicle with the 110 volt alternator.
My buddy had a red/ red 61 Chevy wagon back in the mid 70's with that alternator. It was a retired vehicle from the local Chesterfield, Mass. Fire Department.
My buddy had a red/ red 61 Chevy wagon back in the mid 70's with that alternator. It was a retired vehicle from the local Chesterfield, Mass. Fire Department.
I wonder was this the last stamped plate an employee made on the assembly line before he was canned ?
I really cannot say what is going on.
If it was something special like having a 110V alternator then I would think it was not the only one produced. I might also think it might not be just for the Chevy II model but would have been available on other models ?. Granted the Chevy II's and Nova's are not as well documented as the Camaro's, Chevelle's, Impala's and such but I've not seen something like the above.
I wonder too could it have been something that GM had but not for US market ?.
Jim
I really cannot say what is going on.
If it was something special like having a 110V alternator then I would think it was not the only one produced. I might also think it might not be just for the Chevy II model but would have been available on other models ?. Granted the Chevy II's and Nova's are not as well documented as the Camaro's, Chevelle's, Impala's and such but I've not seen something like the above.
I wonder too could it have been something that GM had but not for US market ?.
Jim
Bob,,, no other pictures. the guy was asking if anyone could decode his cowl tag an vin. after i looked at the cowl tag closer i thought this is a mystery for steve's site. just one of the GM's strange assemblies.I've never seen a 2nd generation cowl tag like this. First, there doesn't appear to be a body build date. Second, the #2 Fisher body sequence
number is the lowest I've ever seen. Third, I've never seen a 2nd generation Willow Run tag where they used the actual RPO numbers for options -
A33 = Power tailgate, A39 = Custom seat belts, D33 = Remote mirror. The model number denotes a 100 Series V/8 wagon, but no guaranty it
really was a V/8, because all Fisher tags of this era were stamped as 8 cylinder. The VIN plate is impossible to read, except what appears to
3 ones at the beginning. The '110 volt wire' note is a complete mystery and again, I've never seen anything like this before.
Was there any more information or pictures on Facebook?
Bob
That kind of makes sense, then. Never seen it, but that's the plausible explanation. But does that mean they run the standard delcotron AND a 110V alternator on another pulley? Only the 110V? Isn't that frying electricals on the rest of the car? And is there a two (three?) prong plug?
I was told by an old timer that it is likely a block heater
Geez Steve, you just blew my childhood belief that all fire dept. vehicles were redFire Dept. vehicle with the 110 volt alternator.
My buddy had a red/ red 61 Chevy wagon back in the mid 70's with that alternator. It was a retired vehicle from the local Chesterfield, Mass. Fire Department.
, at least in Canada. What kid could vision an Emerald Turquoise '67 Chevy II wagonracing to a fire LOL.
Bob
That's a good possibility, but I can't even find a block heater option on m U.S. '67 lists. I know there must be one, because those owners in theI was told by an old timer that it is likely a block heater
northern border states weren't getting through a winter without one. Not surprisingly, clearly listed as RPO K05 on Canadian order forms and
most cars had them. Have never seen '110 volt wire' on a Canadian cowl tag, though.
Bob
Would the block heater have been a dealer installed option, not something Fisher had to deal with? I would assume dealer installed options wouldn't have been on the cowl tag????That's a good possibility, but I can't even find a block heater option on m U.S. '67 lists. I know there must be one, because those owners in the
northern border states weren't getting through a winter without one. Not surprisingly, clearly listed as RPO K05 on Canadian order forms and
most cars had them. Have never seen '110 volt wire' on a Canadian cowl tag, though.
Bob
Yes, I'm pretty sure a dealer would install a block heater. Wouldn't show on the cowl tag. Only factory options that required Fisher Body involvement appeared on theWould the block heater have been a dealer installed option, not something Fisher had to deal with? I would assume dealer installed options wouldn't have been on the cowl tag????
cowl tag.
B.
Tom K's 61 Chevy wagon, 6 cyl,. std., had a monster of an alternator in place of the normal alternator. It had a 110 v receptacle on the back of it but also supplied the car with the normal 12 volts for regular driving. This Fire Dept car had a swiss cheeze dash from all the gauges and meters installed.
The alternator seized up at 11:00 on a Sunday night on our ride home from Misquamicut Beach in Rhode Island back to Easthampton, MA. Two sun-baked teenagers slept in the red Fire-Dept colored seats of this 61 wagon that night on the side of the road. We only got woken up twice that night by the cops.
Farmer Tom always had tools (and used oil/ sparkplugs) in his junkers, so the next morning we (wearing only cut-off jeans, no shirts) trekked off for a NAPA store that had an alternator that we could stuff in there. I remember we got 1 bracket to hold it in place but had to break off a big stick and jamb it in behind the alternator to tension the belt.
Do or die, we got it home....
The alternator seized up at 11:00 on a Sunday night on our ride home from Misquamicut Beach in Rhode Island back to Easthampton, MA. Two sun-baked teenagers slept in the red Fire-Dept colored seats of this 61 wagon that night on the side of the road. We only got woken up twice that night by the cops.
Farmer Tom always had tools (and used oil/ sparkplugs) in his junkers, so the next morning we (wearing only cut-off jeans, no shirts) trekked off for a NAPA store that had an alternator that we could stuff in there. I remember we got 1 bracket to hold it in place but had to break off a big stick and jamb it in behind the alternator to tension the belt.
Do or die, we got it home....
always good to see another ChevyII fan in Western Mass. Chicopee here.
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