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I was just at Ali Al Salem air base in Kuwait a couple days ago coming back from the States from 2 weeks R&R. Arrived via Blackhawk from BIAP yesterday.
My contract is over in April, but things are winding down over here and spooling up in Afghanistan. I may be back sooner than later. Don't breath the dust. It will kill you.
 

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I was just at Ali Al Salem air base in Kuwait a couple days ago coming back from the States from 2 weeks R&R. Arrived via Blackhawk from BIAP yesterday.
My contract is over in April, but things are winding down over here and spooling up in Afghanistan. I may be back sooner than later. Don't breath the dust. It will kill you.
I been over there 4 times so far. I'll be going through Ali Al Salem air base in Kuwait on my over. I think I still have your email when I get there I'll try to get in touch with you.
 

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Looking a bit further . . .

. . . well, I hope at least that . . . when you locate that article in your Hot Rod archives, perhaps you could make a much clearer scan of the pages to clear up the illustrations and exploded views. Mine were copied off the original pages back in the late '70s . . . and, if scanned directly off the original pages, should produce much better copies!

If you or anyone else here should do that, . . . let me know so I can get a better copy from you for my archives! :thumbsup: :pray:

Anyway, glad to help . . .
I'm just a REMF working behind the T-walls.
The thanks go to you for solving an old thread. Now I just need to find an OD saginaw 3 speed.

Scanning my vast collection is on my "list of things to do when I get back".
I'll send a high res copy to you and Jeff (StockZ28) when I do.
. . . through my archives of various '50s, '60s and '70s Chevy FSMs in my attic, I found some larger, much clearer images of the Saginaw 3-speed, 4-speed and 3-speed OD cross section views and the OD exploded view . . . rescanned and pictured below . . .

Saginaw 3-speed cross section:



Saginaw 4-speed cross section:



Saginaw 3-speed OD cross section:



Saginaw 3-speed OD exploded:



. . . these should help anyone considering doing this mod.

I found a copy of that April 1975 Hot Rod issue and will scan directly off the original " 4 + 0 = 8 " article pages to replace my original post's images and hopefully much clearer than my scans from "a copy of a copy!"
 

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One more thing . . .

I'm just a REMF working behind the T-walls.
The thanks go to you for solving an old thread. Now I just need to find an OD saginaw 3 speed.

Scanning my vast collection is on my "list of things to do when I get back".
I'll send a high res copy to you and Jeff (StockZ28) when I do.
. . . Paul, to simplify your search and if I recall correctly, I believe the only GM manual 3-speed OD transmissions produced were Saginaws!
 

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Original post article re-scan

Just received my April 1975 Hot Rod copy and rescanned the 2-page article for the pics in my original post (#36) here . . . don't like leaving things half done!

Oh yeah, found a Saginaw 4-speed and it's on the way here to mate with my late '60s 3-speed OD in storage . . . which I'll document with digi-pics when I do the conversion . . . :thumbsup:
 

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Need gasket sets . . .

Just received my April 1975 Hot Rod copy and rescanned the 2-page article for the pics in my original post (#36) here . . . don't like leaving things half done!

Oh yeah, found a Saginaw 4-speed and it's on the way here to mate with my late '60s 3-speed OD in storage . . . which I'll document with digi-pics when I do the conversion . . . :thumbsup:
OK guys, got my Saginaw 4-speed and am having some difficulty finding a gasket set for each tranny, 3-speed OD and 4-speed Saginaws. It appears that most Chevy dealers are 'reluctant' to even look-up 'old parts' because they're no longer 'in the system' . . . electronic system, that is.

Three Chevy dealer Parts Departments I went to immediately stated that they "couldn't look them up" and didn't even offer to try outside of their computerized parts lookup :mad: . . . very, very sad!!! :( No wonder GM is in trouble!

Anyway, back to my need . . . all I need is a source for the two gasket sets so I can complete my Saginaw 4-speed OD conversion project, which, of course, I'll document with pics here . . . anyone? :confused:
 

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Tranny gaskets and seals!

OK guys, got my Saginaw 4-speed and am having some difficulty finding a gasket set for each tranny, 3-speed OD and 4-speed Saginaws. It appears that most Chevy dealers are 'reluctant' to even look-up 'old parts' because they're no longer 'in the system' . . . electronic system, that is.

Three Chevy dealer Parts Departments I went to immediately stated that they "couldn't look them up" and didn't even offer to try outside of their computerized parts lookup :mad: . . . very, very sad!!! :( No wonder GM is in trouble!

Anyway, back to my need . . . all I need is a source for the two gasket sets so I can complete my Saginaw 4-speed OD conversion project, which, of course, I'll document with pics here . . . anyone? :confused:
Didn't get any response here for my gasket/seal needs, so I decided to poke around on the internet a bit more and found many 'high dollar' sources for them, most of them apparently with listings priced within a dollar or so of each other . . . hmmm! :(

"Googled" and "Asked" on the net some more and found D & L Transmission, a MUNCIE/BORG WARNER SPECIALIST in up-state NY, who claim that . . .
"---We Specialize in Classic and Current Musclecar Manual Transmissions--
-Hard to Find Parts and Transmissions- NEW & USED-"
. . . on their site, linked above.

And, why am I "singing their praises" and passing this on to you, you may ask?! Well they do exactly what they claim . . . at less than half the cost of any others I found!! Their price for a complete Saginaw 4-spd. gasket/seal kit, $8.00, was less than half :wow: of any other Saginaw 4-spd. kit, ~$18.00, I found anywhere else . . . good enough? :thumbsup:
 

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One thing I wanted to add to this thread. As far as I can find, if anyone is looking for the correct overdrive to do this, is has to be from a 66 or newer GM. I think even the 1/2 tons had them.

Older than 66 I think the 3 speed overdrive was different in that it did not have a syncronized low gear, so it's not the same internally as the Saginaw 4 speed, thus eliminating chances of converting.
 

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Your correct Carl. Only the fully sinkro. 3 speed O.D. Trans will retro fit to the 4 speed trans. I searched for 30 year's for the O.D. unit and found one and did the conversion. The biggest thing was drilling the 4 speed case for the reverse lock out. Just wish i has a car to put the tran's in.
 
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