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#1 ·
how does the reproduction 62-65 fenders fit?

i met this kid three courts down and he asked me about them....

what are the pro's and cons....on fitment?

are they all made from the same source?
 
#2 ·
I am not trying to vender bash, and I know the policy on it. So I am leaving the brand name out. If you want to know then PM me.
So.... they fit like dog doodoo.
A better question would probably be how they do not fit. The arch is all wrong, and the bolt holes are wrong. They are made very solid, but wrong. They were a nightmare to get them to even bolt to the car, and the contours dont match my original doors at all. It makes my fender to door gap look like the grand canyon.
Theres a funny story about a guy that called blue66deucex2 for a set of original fenders. He decided to go and buy a set of the repops from another dealer, after he(blue) said "don't buy them, i don't recommend them". Well the guy picked them up from the dealer and on the way home stopped by blue66's shop, and we showed him my '62 and how they didnt fit at all. He was skeptical and probably thought we were trying to sell him blues stuff, and he went home and tried his. Then called blue66 back about an hour later because they were junk and bought an original set for much cheaper. The originals fit perfect. The guy probably spent 60 bucks in gas driving around for bad parts. If he had ordered them online or from a catalog he would of payed a fortune on shipping, and they would have probably came dented.
Thats my 2 cents... and how much these fenders are worth.
 
#9 ·
Buy "pair" I assume you're talking about headlamp bezels?

What did GL do to the Taiwan ones? Beat them into the same shape as the originals?

I've never had much luck with the repop bezels on real fenders. They look OK but don't fit nearly as nice as OEM. I was always curious about the quality of the repop fenders and quarter panels though.

A couple years ago Johnny Rotten bought a pair of used headlamp bezels from me to use on the Flyer because he couldn't get the repops to fit nice enough either.
 
#12 ·
I've been thinking about this for 3 hours now

I really had a hard time about this one. I've had 4 sets of those fenders now and I was less than pleased. Just like the story that DD told was true - a guy calls me on the phone, I told him of the fitment issues, but I also told him that maybe they had it straightened out by now. So he goes and buys the repop fender, goes to put it on his car, and it fits just like DD's fenders do. The problem with the fenders is not in the front of the fender - it's in the back of the fender where the fender meets the door; the fender is too long top to bottom. This is slightly hard to explain, but the fender sticks out too far where the center body line goes, and if you try to push the fender down to make it fit, then it sticks down too far and then there would be no way to get a rocker moulding to fit on the car properly, and at that point the center body line does not match anymore either - this seems to be an ongoing problem. I bought the fenders for DD's car about 2 years ago, and the other sets of fenders were bought just recently, within the last 6 months, and they were bought from different vendors - I ended up returning them all. I've heard from other people saying that their repop fenders fit - not sure where they bought them and I haven't seen any pictures, so I have no idea who they got them from, but it doesn't seem to me that there's too many companies out there building 62-65 fenders - what's the demand? Final thoughts: Some people don't care about how things fit - something is better than nothing, and other people will spend hundreds of thousands of dollars building a car - everyone has their own opinion, and their own level of what they think is quality and what is acceptable. Sorry for the rant and rambling...I could go on and on. I'll go through my pics and see if I can find any pics of the fitment of the door to fender.
 
#14 ·
What fits - what doesn't



Sorry for the confusion...I was trying to be vague, and not get into trouble. But, it seems to me that there must be more than one manufacturer making these fenders, because some people say they fit, and my personal experience is they don't. But, it comes back to my last comment - what is each person's opinion of what fits, what doesn't and what is quality, what isn't.
 
#16 ·
Thanks for putting up the pics.

Now that I see what you are saying, I've seen that before. Didn't think nothing of it before and havn't really gotten any complaints.

Being a dealer, it is nice to get feedback on the parts so I know what to look for and how to answer the fitment questions when they are asked.

When the day comes that I do re-mount the fenders on my 62, I'll definitely look at them closer. As for now they are hanging on the wall waiting patiently.
 
#17 · (Edited)
blue66deucex2

Have you tried to "suck in" the fender by shimming up on top at the cowl? This may facilitate the need for lowering the fender at the rocker......

Would this have solved your problem?

be honest ok?

tell us what you do know and dont know.

tell us what you havent tried or thought of......

i wish i was there helping you so i can see for myself....

is this the same issue on both sides of the car?

have you tried to fit an OE fender to this same car with better results?

i'm trying to rule out the possibility of a bad door.....
 
#20 ·
I was thinking the same thing John!!:yes::yes:
However I like to fit and line up everything before any paint
I think that fender needed a little massage sometimes a body spoon and a body hammer can persuade things.....

Issue seems to be the same according to pictures I would like to see the upper door gaps to cowl....:yes:
 
#19 ·
My experience with repro sheet metal:

I had much of the exterior sheet metal replaced on my 63 hardtop.

I bought door skins - and ended up going with good original doors instead.

I bought full quarters. We made them work, and it looks pretty good. If I had had access to original quarters in good shape, I would have gone with original quarters.

One of my fenders is an original, patched in the usual places. The other is an old GM replacement fender. I am very happy with them.

I have a steel 2" cowl hood. It's good, but not perfect.

PM me if you're curious about details. Follow the links in my sig to see my car.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Well I finally got around to getting my doors alighned and fenders installed today.

And I'm going to have saythat they don't bow out almost half a penny as shown above.

We spent about 4 hours bsing, smoking cleaning the shop a bit to have room to work and a little door and fender alignment.

These parts were all painted off the car and no test fitment was done prior.

And when I say WE, I mean an Electrician, computer programmer, auto glass installer and a copier technician. No body men by trade.

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#24 · (Edited)
LMAO @ THIS THREAD !!

Ok first off After Market never has and never will be perfect by any means, nor will it ever just bolt up and be perfect, we have original fenders and still had to tweak and fit everything, but for the record After Market never fits......

heres some pics of a Original Fenders with Original Doors after some Prefit before paint.......

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Now this means absolutely nothing, if you are good at this kind of stuff you will get your Body Lines so straight and your gaps so good that you will start finding factory flaws, which now brings me to After Market, it took us several hours to line up this front end with Original panels, with After Market it may have took days and some fabricating......
 
#25 · (Edited)
LMAO @ THIS THREAD !!

Ok first off After Market never has and never will be perfect by any means, nor will it ever just bolt up and be perfect, we have original fenders and still had to tweak and fit everything, but for the record After Market never fits......

heres some pics of a Original Fenders with Original Doors after some Prefit before paint.......


Now this means absolutely nothing, if you are good at this kind of stuff you will get your Body Lines so straight and your gaps so good that you will start finding factory flaws, which now brings me to After Market, it took us several hours to line up this front end with Original panels, with After Market it may have took days and some fabricating......

Dude!!! Take a chill pill.

No where did anyone say perfect. Just pointing out that they are not horrible when installed by the Novices that we are.

And it only took a few hours to get them to fit as well as they are, not days.:confused::confused:

Now I understand by reading (and deleting some of) your posts that you have a soft spot for aftermarket parts, I can agree that some are not worth their weight in sand, but to say ALL or EVERY part is quite a reach that even someone as "All knowing such as yourself" can't possibly back up.
 
#26 ·
I'm not going to argue you took it the wrong way let people buy what they want, it's all in preference anyways, you deleted my last post because i said After Market panels suck it's an opinion i don't care if your a dealer or not or an Admin or Mod for that fact, i expressed my opinion and it got deleted if people buy AF and are happy who cares right ?

If anyone anywhere asked me about After Market i would say the same FROM EXPERIENCE that they will never go on a car of mine or a customers, unless it's a driver or i feel like getting pissed off over panels not fitting, now take that how you will but the man asked and he got a real answer from a guy who has done Body Work and customizing cars for 15 years for a living...
 
#30 ·
Your opinion isn't the issue here, it's the way you have chosen to express it, that is the concern. If you have some free time, browse the different sections and I am sure you'll find there are much better ways to express your opinion with anything you agree or disagree with. We don't tolerate bashing or rude comments to anyone, it isn't needed or wanted here.

Just some helpful information that is expected to be exercised here at this site.
 
#29 ·
Of course not, if you would have read what i said in the last post i said maybe Drivers i would use After Market on, you got to remember we do high end stuff, so After Market is just completely out of the question..........

And if you got a set of after market to line up in two hours then you got the only set of AM in the world that you just hang in two hours and everything is gravy, what did you do before paint to make those fenders line up like that ? Bur ? Shim ? Cut ? Weld ? Large Amounts of Bondo ? built Up edges ? be honest...
 
#31 ·
To be completely honest these fenders each had 1 small ding up towards the front (where the scallops would go).

Other then a slight fill on them, they had absolutely NO work done except smoothing out the orange peal of the EDP, primer and paint.

They were NEVER mounted on a car until after they were painted.


NO blocking, cutting, bending, bondo, edgework etc....
 
#32 ·
BTW, the car I am working on is #'s matching and is getting restored to pretty much factory, leaving all the factory imperfections as a "restoration" would be if we went by the dictionary interpretation of the term.

I am using and looking for as many NOS parts as I can find for it.


My little 4door 4cyl 3sp car might be more rare then most due to attrition.

And I know it's not a high dollar car and would never compare it to a Yenko and such....
 
#33 ·
This whole perfect panel fit issue makes me laugh. If your restoring one of these cars to "original", the panel fit and gaps shouldn't be anywhere close to perfect, they sure as hell weren't that way when they were built.

If your spending hours getting an original panel to line up perfectly what's that tell ya? It tells me that even the factory one's don't fit right.
I know plenty of people who have used aftermarket panels with great success, and very minor tweaking involved to get them "perfect".

Now I'm not saying it doesn't look good when all the gap's are even and everything lines up perfect, especially on a show car. But let's not forget what these cars were when they were built. They were economy cars and and they were built accordingly.

If you want to use nothing but original or NOS panels knock yourself out. Your generally going to be fixing a ton of rust on original panels or way overpaying for NOS panels.

With an aftermarket panel you'll pay less and maybe have to do a little work to get them "perfect".