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i went to the track sunday and watched the fuel wars there was a cobalt with a 305 running high nines couldnt believe it i have always heard people say they have seen these little 305 run that good but its the first time i have ever seen this.
 

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Any idea what the details of the motor were?
Pics??
 

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I would be willing to bet it was a Superstocker if it was a Cobalt with a 305. Price is not object, lets start with that. Extensive head porting/expoxing, sheet metal intakes, jesel valve train super exotic valvetrain/rotating assembly parts, huge cams, 9500-10,000 RPM's.
 

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I would be willing to bet it was a Superstocker if it was a Cobalt with a 305. Price is not object, lets start with that. Extensive head porting/expoxing, sheet metal intakes, jesel valve train super exotic valvetrain/rotating assembly parts, huge cams, 9500-10,000 RPM's.
Yeah they kinda forget a cobalt was fwd and they spend a ton of money on SS cars.
 

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That 305 wasn't your typical 305. It was probably a big bore, small stroke engine, Dart block, etc. Probably in the 30-50K range. A friend of mine had a Patterson 300" small block that cost 50G's that was in an A/SR. Not a rookies class. But if I can get my 305 to get my 65 in the 9's in the 1/8 mile, I'd be happy. Dave
 

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sure would be nice if class racing could be like it was 30 years ago. I guess thats not in the cards but it used to be awesume and it wasn't just for the super rich
 

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sure would be nice if class racing could be like it was 30 years ago
Or 40+ years ago, like this from the NHRA website:
The highlighted area is about my dad, who, after winning the Stock Eliminator Championship with his 57 Chevy, towed home the 61 Pontiac awarded to him by George Hurst. Try that today!


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The winners at the nitro-less Nationals were Pete Robinson in Top eliminator, Walt Knoch Jr. in Middle eliminator, Willis Ragsdale in Little eliminator, and Jr. Garrison in Street eliminator. Robinson had low e.t. at 8.68, and Dode Martin's twin-engine rail set top speed at 177.87 mph. ... Jack Chrisman, after successfully racing the twin-engine Howard's Cams Special all over the country in 1961, accumulated the most points to be crowned NHRA world champion at the Nationals. Bruce Morgan and his '57 Chevy from San Gabriel, Calif., won the 1961 Stock world title. Morgan drove his '57 Chevy to the races — 5,985 miles in July alone when he went to Alton, Ill., and won. ... Joe Jacono won Top Eliminator again in the Northeast, this time at New Jersey's Atco Raceway. ... Ron Pellegrini, driving Tommy Ivo's four-engine, four-wheel-drive dragster, ran 173.07 mph at Minnesota Dragway.
 

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B/Stock was a bit slower in 1961! Some more from the NHRA site:

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As at the Nationals, Eddie Hill's twin-blown Pontiac-powered gas rail literally ripped up the asphalt at Connecticut Dragway. ... At York U.S. 30, Dave Strickler's '61 Chevy defeated the Ramchargers' '61 Dodge every time with best marks of 13.21 and 109.75 mph. ... Bruce Morgan's world champion '57 Chevy Stocker was for sale in Drag Mart for $2,250, including spare parts. The car was undefeated for the year and had B/S top speed at the Nationals at 97.71 mph. ... Michigan state champion Connie Kalitta became the first non-Californian in the six-year history of Lions Dragstrip to win Top Eliminator. Of 26 other AA/Dragsters and A/Dragsters, Kalitta defeated Jack Chrisman in the final with an 8.73, 172.08.
 

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I would be willing to bet it was a Superstocker if it was a Cobalt with a 305. Price is not object, lets start with that. Extensive head porting/expoxing, sheet metal intakes, jesel valve train super exotic valvetrain/rotating assembly parts, huge cams, 9500-10,000 RPM's.
We had the superstock/stock classes this last weekend and those guys build amazing cars. One guy I talked to was running a 88' camaro with the 305 in it and was running low tens. It was a superstocker but he told me he's turning 9000+ through the lights, That's insaine. And here I thought spinning my motor to 7500 with stock crank/rods in each gear was crazy.:yes::eek:
 

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yeah it was a super stock it was a blue car looked good ran better.
 

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We had the superstock/stock classes this last weekend and those guys build amazing cars. One guy I talked to was running a 88' camaro with the 305 in it and was running low tens. It was a superstocker but he told me he's turning 9000+ through the lights, That's insaine. And here I thought spinning my motor to 7500 with stock crank/rods in each gear was crazy.:yes::eek:
The thing you really should have asked him is how HP it makes, then you could helped me defend my position on HP, because theres some guys on here that think thier making way more HP than they are, remember a Super Stock 350 chevy 295 HP makes 630 HP in Super Stock trim and can run 9.70s @ 3100 pounds. And thats just fact.
 

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What's even crazier is that they run cast cranks and stock rods. They are sent out and treated, but still cast because of the weight.
 

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I know a guy with a 64 Chevelle, ran a 285 that turned 11,000 before valve float and shifted between 92-9500 rpms.

He now runs a BBC that turns rpms like a sbc.

Although he has talked about going back to that type of sbc just to have a little fun.
 

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The thing you really should have asked him is how HP it makes, then you could helped me defend my position on HP, because theres some guys on here that think thier making way more HP than they are, remember a Super Stock 350 chevy 295 HP makes 630 HP in Super Stock trim and can run 9.70s @ 3100 pounds. And thats just fact.
i agree with this ^^^^^ ........ i asked a guy who had a newer firebird ( late 90's firebird ) that runs in stock / superstock , its the original motor ( case ) with a scat 4130 crank , manley i beam rods ( legal rods ) , stock lt1 - 4 heads with a lot of little secrets he didnt want to let me know , and a cam of untold lift and duration but he was running the stock ( original trans ) , 10 bolt rear end ( original rearend ) , 28x10x15 hoosiers , i think the car went 9.75 :eek: ...... i tell you this it didnt look like it was making no 450 hp :no: .... and thats what he told me :yes:
 

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I think you're trying to compare apples to oranges. A 305 in a late model car, compared to a 305 comp eliminator engine is not the same type engine. Get your wallet out if you want to go nines. I have a friend that was the A/SR record holder with a 300" small block. $50,000 will get you the same engine from Patterson. There are so many bore stroke combos out there to get a 305 it's ridiculous. Stick withthe stock stuff. We can talk about this all night. Dave
 
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