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Old 4th-December-2012, 01:23 AM   #1
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1st Gen Pull the motor with or without tranny?

I am getting ready to pull the motor and will eventually pull the trans probably as well.

I wanted to find out what everyones experience has been in pulling the motor and trans together or should I just pull the motor by itself as planned and do the trans later.

I will not be taking the front end sheetmetal apart at all so clearance could definitely be an issue.
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Old 4th-December-2012, 01:44 AM   #2
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If its the stock setup you can get by with them together. I know you dont want to take apart the front end but at least the grille and possibly the hood for insurance. Just my .2

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Old 4th-December-2012, 08:20 AM   #3
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I was able to get my 327 and trans out of my first gen no prob, oil pan and all.
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Old 4th-December-2012, 08:34 AM   #4
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I havent had any problems with past exp. in pulling them together
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Old 5th-December-2012, 08:28 AM   #5
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Hood off of course, pull them together works fine.

Unbolting 2 of the upper bellhousing bolts is hard unless you remove the trans mount and crossmember, then lower the back of the trans first. Then you can get those bolts with one of those 2 or 3 foot extensions and a 9/16" swivel socket.
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Old 5th-December-2012, 02:42 PM   #6
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I've always removed the hood and grille and pulled them together. This time I pulled just the engine and left the tranny in the car. However, now I have a lift so I could get around underneath to get to bellhousing bolts etc. Motor is done and just broke in on the test stand this past weekend so when I get time in the near future I'm going back in. Hope it goes in as easy as it came out. I thought doing engine separate was easier but again, I have the luxury of a lift.
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Old 5th-December-2012, 05:04 PM   #7
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I pulled motor and trans ( 4-speed ) together ---- took off hood - grill ANYTHING that would catch on something.. Made the mistake of not putting it back in the same way....tranny was a pian in d *****.
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Old 5th-December-2012, 06:09 PM   #8
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I always drop the trans first then yank the engine, trans and engine need to be separated anyway
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Old 5th-December-2012, 10:05 PM   #9
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With some Novas, you can loosen the rear transmission mount bolts and jack up the transmission just enough, in the tunnel, to get at the top transmission housing bolts.
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Old 5th-December-2012, 11:44 PM   #10
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I dropped the trans and then pulled the engine. If you have an engine leveler then it's not a problem to pull it as a unit.

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Thanks for all the replies.

I will likely pull them seperate as I will probably do it alone and I would imagine just the motor would be a little easier to manage around than all at once.

Motor has been in for close to 18 years but I do seem to remember those upper bellhousing bolts being a bear to get at.

I have not been in any huge hurry to pull the motor and have had the new one sitting next to the car all fall waiting to get around to it. Now I am looking at it being Dec already and i realize I need to get to work. Pull motor and throw new one in is not biggie but I am going to do some tiddying up and making it more sanitary. Now I just bought a new 9" rear setup and want to strip the underside of the rear and get it looking new as well.

I got to get busy!!!!
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Old 6th-December-2012, 01:59 PM   #12
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I did mine by myself (with help from my alter ego) as an assembly. I found that it was much easier to do and was able to use proper torque on the transmission to block bolts. This is an important step to prevent cracking the belhousing due to torque from racing.

I also noticed that the factory service manual mentions to pull the whole assembly as well.
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Old 6th-December-2012, 09:58 PM   #13
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I have always pulled/assembled as a whole. What a PIA to get to the bolts on the transmission, just so close to the firewall. By the time you move the engine forward and mess with getting the bolts out you could have both out together. I'd say 15-20 minutes to get both out taking your time. An engine leveler is a must though. PLus I think it's easier to assemble the engine/trans out of the car.
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Finished unhooking most everything tonight and thought I would take a look at the two upper bellhousing bolts. These are the 2 that are supposed to be most difficult correct? I had plenty of room to get a box end wrench on each bolt and simply undo them. Each of these cars are different right

Still not sure if I will pull together or apart, probably decide once I get there.
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Old 7th-December-2012, 06:24 PM   #15
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If you don't have a engine leveler to adjust angles pulling them together is a PIA and likely to mess up paint etc. unless you pull the core support & grille. I've always separated them and then pulled them. Still use a engine leveler, but don't have to mess with the core support or grille.

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