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Old 12th-May-2010, 04:36 PM   #1
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70s Nova SS real or fake?

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Can anybody tell me, if the nova in the link is a real SS or a fake one? How do I notice the difference?

VIN 114270W149380

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Old 12th-May-2010, 04:47 PM   #2
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http://novaresource.org/rpo_Z26.htm

# 1968 thru 1971 = optional package: there is no way to verify an SS these years without some original paperwork. In-dash tachs, floor consoles/shifters, console gauges, bucket seats and even 12-bolt rears are NOT indications of a real SS. There were real Super Sport Novas built with the standard dash, column shifters, bench seats and 10-bolt rears. However, you can guess at it's originality. First, all 1968 Super Sports have finned front drum brakes (standard Novas have non-finned drums), and all 1969-71 Super Sports have power front disc brakes. The next thing to check is the engine code. If the engine is original (the last 6 digits of the VIN are stamped on the engine block) and it has a application code (also stamped on the block) that decodes to an SS only engine, then you have a real SS. Without the original engine or some original paperwork, you're basically out of luck.
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Old 12th-May-2010, 05:31 PM   #3
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http://novaresource.org/rpo_Z26.htmall 1968 Super Sports have finned front drum brakes
I thought disks were an option during '68 then standard '69 thru '72 ?
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Old 12th-May-2010, 09:50 PM   #4
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I thought disks were an option during '68 then standard '69 thru '72 ?
According to NovaResource (and backed up by my own fading memory...), disc brakes were an option in '67 and '68 (RPO J52), but I've never seen anything to suggest that they were necessarily tied to the SS package (there were less than 1,000 '67 disc brake Novas and less than 2,000 '68s). You would think, though, that disc brakes would have been much easier to sell to SS buyers.

As far as I know, '69 Nova SS cars all came with disc brakes. But, knowing Chevrolet, there were probably exceptions...
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Old 12th-May-2010, 10:16 PM   #5
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Not sure but i think you can check through the vin#
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Old 12th-May-2010, 10:40 PM   #6
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If it has the numbers matching engine, you can check the engine code and see if it coinsides to be an L48. If it was built in Canada, you can contact GM canada. They can give you all the info you would need about the car by the Vin number. The 10 bolt rear end would make me suspicious though.
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Old 13th-May-2010, 12:30 AM   #7
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68 SS's were available with 4 piston caliper disc brakes. Most had power drum.
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Old 13th-May-2010, 02:44 AM   #8
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it looked like it has a nice clean body
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I thought disks were an option during '68 then standard '69 thru '72 ?
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According to NovaResource (and backed up by my own fading memory...), disc brakes were an option in '67 and '68 (RPO J52), but I've never seen anything to suggest that they were necessarily tied to the SS package (there were less than 1,000 '67 disc brake Novas and less than 2,000 '68s). You would think, though, that disc brakes would have been much easier to sell to SS buyers.

As far as I know, '69 Nova SS cars all came with disc brakes. But, knowing Chevrolet, there were probably exceptions...
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68 SS's were available with 4 piston caliper disc brakes. Most had power drum.
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I believe you are reading this wrong. It's not a disc vs drum comment. It's that '68 SS front drums were finned, not smooth. Regular cars had smooth drums. Discs were optional, 4 pistons per caliper in '68.
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Old 13th-May-2010, 12:21 PM   #10
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SS or not?

I beg to differ that all SS cars 69-72 had pwr front disc brakes. Also 68-71 had 12 bolts. those are bout the only 2 sure ways to identify a true SS car.
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I beg to differ that all SS cars 69-72 had pwr front disc brakes. Also 68-71 had 12 bolts. those are bout the only 2 sure ways to identify a true SS car.
All of that can be easily faked or swapped later.
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This dedate goes on all the time. ALL SS cars from 69-72 have disc brakes, it was part of the SS package. 12 bolts were NOT a reguirement for a SS car. Bucket seats, guages, tach and all that stuff were options and had to be ordered in addition to the SS package. As stated above the ONLY way to be 100% ssure of an ss from 68-71 is a numbers matching car with the motor coded for the engine that was only for the SS or a build sheet!!!! The 72 vin has a code indicating SS, 68-71 did not!!!!
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Never say never! The GM Canada documentation on my 1970 Nova SS L78 has J50 Vacuum Power Brakes and J52 Disc Brakes - Front Single Piston.......both showing as options. It also lists the Z26 Super Sport option.

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Never say never! The GM Canada documentation on my 1970 Nova SS L78 has J50 Vacuum Power Brakes and J52 Disc Brakes - Front Single Piston.......both showing as options. It also lists the Z26 Super Sport option.

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My 72' build sheet says the same thing.... but it also lists the L48 350 andN10 dual exhaust on the options...... all standard with the SS. Some guys in the know were saying that PDB was standard, but you could order a delete on the PDB. although why would you.
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Never say never! The GM Canada documentation on my 1970 Nova SS L78 has J50 Vacuum Power Brakes and J52 Disc Brakes - Front Single Piston.......both showing as options. It also lists the Z26 Super Sport option.

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they show as options,but were likley "required options" included in the ss package.
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