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Old 6th-December-2009, 10:10 PM   #1
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rear sway bar installation (Hellwig bar)

Yesterday David_H cam over and we installed the 5818 Hellwig rear sway bar on my '64. excuse the dirt, my car isn't a trailer biotch, i drive this baby



as you can see the sway bar is adjustable. i'm unsure how other than testing as the instructions don't really give specifics on the settings. i'll be calling them on Monday to inquire. as far as i know i have it in the middle setting



all the parts, the bar, brackets and end links are heavy duty parts. i'm looking forward to the installation of the Heidt's front bar... then road testing.


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Old 6th-December-2009, 10:58 PM   #2
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Let us know how it feels. I have been looking at sway bars for a while wanted to know how it does.
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Old 6th-December-2009, 11:58 PM   #3
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hey john,i ran a addco bar along time ago and the brackets on the rearend would move around with spirited driveing,aka beating the you no what out of the car.ended up tack welding the brackets on the rearend.also the framerail connection needed be***** up with plates,i tore the frame brackets clean out of the rail.just a heads up,iam sure you beat on that car like i always do mine.with the addco bar it seemed to work better with the end of the bar level at the endlink mount,WITH ME SITTING IN THE CAR.i mounted mine like yours below the rearend and then on top.IT WORKED BETTER WITH THE MOUNTING BRACKETS/BAR MOUNTED ON THE TOP SIDE OF THE REAREND,hope this might help
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hey john,i ran a addco bar along time ago and the brackets on the rearend would move around with spirited driveing,aka beating the you no what out of the car.ended up tack welding the brackets on the rearend.also the framerail connection needed be***** up with plates,i tore the frame brackets clean out of the rail.just a heads up,iam sure you beat on that car like i always do mine
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Look closely at the pic's. This is a different set-up than the Addco bar.

The Addco bar is rear facing and the links mount to the rear most part of the frame.

The Hellwig is a front facing bar and the links mount to a much sturdier section of the frame. If i'm not mistaken, the Hellwig also has a peice that goes into the frame for additional reinforcement

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Old 7th-December-2009, 12:21 AM   #5
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Look closely at the pic's. This is a different set-up than the Addco bar.

The Addco bar is rear facing and the links mount to the rear most part of the frame.

The Hellwig is a front facing bar and the links mount to a much sturdier section of the frame. If i'm not mistaken, the Hellwig also has a peice that goes into the frame for additional reinforcement
bill that addco i had mounted on the rear just like johns and faced forward,the endlink brackets used a u bolt into the frame.i tore the framerail u bolt clean out of the driverside framerail,plumrat was wondering what happened to it,while he was putting the new qrts on my car.he is going to fix that chunk of metal that was torn out.that bar john has mounts lower in the front than the addco i had on my car,the frame bracket on johns car is much lower than the addco i had.your right bill that hellwig setup looks way better than the addco i used in the early 80.s
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Old 7th-December-2009, 01:27 AM   #6
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Yes, a spacer/tube fits inside the frame rail to prevent the bolt from crushing/collapsing the frame rail when tightened or (i'll suppose) when forces are put on it.

might be a good idea to weld the brackets to the differential too... i hadn't thought of that. i'll have to keep an eye on it, see how it does.

i'm hoping to have the front end pulled down this week to have the brackets welded to my lower A Arms. i might be swapping spindles too but on that i'm still undecided... also another demon reared its ugly face... a leaking intake manifold. so now i'm trying to decide on whether i'll just pull the engine so everything can be cleaned up or to do it with the engine in the car... i might be changing cams at the same time so that's another reason to consider the engine removal... sigh... and here i thought my car was done yeah yeah yeah... when are they ever done ?

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Old 7th-December-2009, 01:42 AM   #7
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Looks very nice. I need to add a sway bar to my 63 Chevy II wagon, do they make an application for a wagon or is it that same as any 1st Gen Chevy II?
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Old 7th-December-2009, 01:47 AM   #8
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LongRoof, Coopercar or Sedan... i believe it's the same bar


just a thought though, just in case... from what i've always heard, never use a rear bar without a front bar

(just a reminder)
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Old 8th-December-2009, 01:04 PM   #9
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As long as the U-bolts are torqued correctly, the saddles on the axle should not move. As far as initial setting, I reccomend using the softest setting first (longest distance from the axle) for the initial setting. It can be made stiffer after you drive the car and become familiar with its new characteristics. If you don't already have a front bar, you need one for the car to handle well. Otherwise the car will be loose and could end up being uncontrollable if pushed hard. We have our new front bar p/n 5718 that works with the stock suspension or a CPP mini-subframe. It features 7" long end link bolts to allow the suspension to freely articulate.
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i don't recall if you're the guy i talked to on the phone but regardless... nice sway bar, good looking product.

as far as the front bar goes, i have a Heidt's clip.
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Any idea if this will fit on a car with springs moved inboard?
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Duane, my shock plates have been modified to allow for the QA1's. the distance between the shock and the bar is approximately 3/4" per side

my springs are in the stock location... so i'll say no, it's not going to fit with relocated springs.
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Duane, my shock plates have been modified to allow for the QA1's. the distance between the shock and the bar is approximately 3/4" per side

my springs are in the stock location... so i'll say no, it's not going to fit with relocated springs.
Thats what I figured Johnny, oh well, guess I'll keep searching, trying to stay away from them 3-400 dollar adjustables.
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Duane, just a thought but aren't the Cal-Tracs going to operate somewhat as a sway bar ?
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Old 10th-December-2009, 04:22 PM   #15
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Johnny,

Just to keep you up to date, I was the test mule for the new front Hellwig sway bar and they so kindly set up the rear with one of the same sway bars you have. The Blonde convertible!

I love the way it corners.
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