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Old 17th-August-2008, 01:43 AM   #1
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COMP Cams 12-564-4 anyone have or use this cam?

Hey everyone, does anyone have or is using this hydrualic flat tappet camshaft for a small block? or know anyone who is using it? its part number COMP Cams 12-564-4 and the specs are 230 int./244 exh. @.050 duration and 0.487 int./0.501 exh. lift with a 113 lobe separation
I'd like to find out what it sounds like before i get one. please let me know
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Old 17th-August-2008, 09:59 AM   #2
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Looks like a nitrous cam?
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Old 17th-August-2008, 10:13 AM   #3
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You want a nasty sounding cam that makes power!

Pic here!

http://lunaticams.com/ProductGroup.aspx?id=245&cid=58
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Big Al,

I like the 300/515 cam from Lunati that you linked to. Do you think that would work with my combo?

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Big Al,

I like the 300/515 cam from Lunati that you linked to. Do you think that would work with my combo?

355
9.5+:1 compression
461 castings with 2.02 / 1.60 valves
Weiand Stealth intake
750 carb (eddy or holley)

Thanks in advance.

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Old 17th-August-2008, 08:24 PM   #6
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That Comp cam is a small nitrous cam, we ran it in a low compression 350 an sprayed 375hp to it. ran like the dickens on nitrous, but was a mild street mannered cam with a rumpety idle. Others will make better N/A power but won't have the mild manners this one got riding around, it'll idle as low as 700-800rpm an drive nice. I have a 286 magnum grind in my Stingray which is similar to the nitrous grind specs but the nitrous cam is much better off idle with no hesitation. My next teardown the nitrous grind will be in the Stingray motor for sure.
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hey 63SSNOS , do you have a video of the idle that i can hear? appreciate any help, thanks so much
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hey 63SSNOS ,
do you have a video of the car idling with that nitruos can i can hear? appreciate any help, thanks so much




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That Comp cam is a small nitrous cam, we ran it in a low compression 350 an sprayed 375hp to it. ran like the dickens on nitrous, but was a mild street mannered cam with a rumpety idle. Others will make better N/A power but won't have the mild manners this one got riding around, it'll idle as low as 700-800rpm an drive nice. I have a 286 magnum grind in my Stingray which is similar to the nitrous grind specs but the nitrous cam is much better off idle with no hesitation. My next teardown the nitrous grind will be in the Stingray motor for sure.
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hey 63SSNOS ,
do you have a video of the car idling with that nitruos can i can hear? appreciate any help, thanks so much
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This is the one Im going with http://lunaticams.com/Product.aspx?id=1781&gid=245

With a 750 holley, weiand stealth air strike, 3.42 gears, Hughes 2500 stall, and this cam should make a good combo.....thats what I will have by march next year......12s here I come....
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what are the specs on it? the link wont open for some reason.....
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Here you go.....Hydraulic, fair idle. Needs headers, gearing and stall converter. Good street/strip cam.

* Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 300/300
* Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 246/246
* Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .515/.515
* LSA/ICL: 108/104
* Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
* RPM Range: 2500-6500
* Includes: Cam Only
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Here you go.....Hydraulic, fair idle. Needs headers, gearing and stall converter. Good street/strip cam.

* Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 300/300
* Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 246/246
* Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .515/.515
* LSA/ICL: 108/104
* Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
* RPM Range: 2500-6500
* Includes: Cam Only
Why not this one?
http://lunaticams.com/Product.aspx?id=1986&gid=287
Hydraulic. This is possibly the most powerful hydraulic cam ever designed! Designed for Very Hot street/bracket race applications, this cam requires a minimum of 10.5:1 compression, 4.11 gearing and 3500 RPM stall converter. Works with up to 250HP nitrous, and pulls Very Hard past 6500 RPM.

* Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 284/292
* Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 241/249
* Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .525/.546
* LSA/ICL: 110/106
* Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
* RPM Range: 2500-6600
* Includes: Cam Only

Part Number: 60105

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Why not this one?
http://lunaticams.com/Product.aspx?id=1986&gid=287
Hydraulic. This is possibly the most powerful hydraulic cam ever designed! Designed for Very Hot street/bracket race applications, this cam requires a minimum of 10.5:1 compression, 4.11 gearing and 3500 RPM stall converter. Works with up to 250HP nitrous, and pulls Very Hard past 6500 RPM.

* Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 284/292
* Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 241/249
* Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .525/.546
* LSA/ICL: 110/106
* Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
* RPM Range: 2500-6600
* Includes: Cam Only

Part Number: 60105

I dont have any of that.....otherwise I would, I actually do have 10.5 compression though......
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Hey everyone, does anyone have or is using this hydrualic flat tappet camshaft for a small block? or know anyone who is using it? its part number COMP Cams 12-564-4 and the specs are 230 int./244 exh. @.050 duration and 0.487 int./0.501 exh. lift with a 113 lobe separation
I'd like to find out what it sounds like before i get one. please let me know
thanks much
You could also consider this one.
http://lunaticams.com/Product.aspx?id=1985&gid=287
Hydraulic. Hot Street cam, likes 2800 converter, Hi-Rise type dual plane intake with 750cfm carb, headers, 10:1 compression and 3.73 gears. Likes up to 200HP nitrous.

* Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 276/284
* Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 233/241
* Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .504/.525
* LSA/ICL: 110/106
* Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
* RPM Range: 2200-6400
* Includes: Cam Only

Part Number: 60104



You've got to remember that the Comp and Bracket master lobes are well over 20 year old designs. The only way you're going to get any newer lobes is to contact Harold directly.
If you are looking to find the absolute BEST performance without all of the expense of going to a roller then I would strongly suggest looking at the solid flat tappet grinds. If your valve train is set up correctly then there is BARELY any more service required but the performance difference is HUGE!!! Especially over 4000 rpm which is generally where your entire trip down the track is going to be. For that I would urge you to call Harold Directly (662-562-4933) because there's a whole list of solid flat tappet cams he's designed that haven't even been listed or available to the public yet that he can (and WILL) get ground for you.
I just got one fresh off the Landis CNC a week or so ago (because the masters haven't even been made yet) and it LOOKS phenomenal!! You can actually SEE just how asymmetrical the lobes are!!
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