Saginaw bell housing

[65novaken]

Originally Posted by dealer-deuce

how can you not beat on 350 four speed!! maybe it is just me

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drive it like ya stole it

[dave's63]

Thanks Carl & Dealer D and everyone else. Really appreciate the pic's DD! I do have the complete clutch pedals and linkage from 3 on the tree. Carl, i assume this means I don't need the 66 or newer stuff you mentioned, right? Also, the 4 speed came with all 3 shifter rods and what looks like a shifter mounting plate bolted on the tranny? Not sure but will send pics soon. So, back to the issue. If I understand correctly I can utilize the 153 but need a 309 bell and new flywheel bolts for the 153 tooth, correct? I'll try the member section for a 309. Anyone have an idea what it cost to machine a 383 to a 309?

My original plan for the front end was a CPP mini front suspension kit & a front sump conversion kit but it looks like by the time you do that + a front brake disc its about $1,500++. I'm tryin to keep to a budget but everyone knows how that goes, eh So i thought maybe I'd break the piggy bank and go for a bolt up kit; TCI, Mustang II, Heidts??? Not sure which is a better deal? Feel free anyone to chime in on which bolt up kit or mini suspension kit they liked or you think is good value for a modest budget build. Sure appreciate all the help guys.
Thx a ton
Newbie Dave

[Carl Stevenson]

As long as your pedals are not from a 67 you are fine. Pedals and linkage work from 62-66 for you, bellhousing is a 309 from 64-67.

Yes to the rest of the first paragraph, the best way is a 309 bellhousing but machining your's would work too.

[6T6NOVA]

Originally Posted by Carl Stevenson

...........the best way is a 309 bellhousing but machining your's would work too.

Years ago I had one of the six(6) bellhousings Fly cut to make the hole large enough for a Muncie four speed.

I sold a 309 bellhousing for $100. Because you keep talking about staying on buget it might be cheaper to have your bellhousing cut.

One more thing. After you bolt on the flywheel you might want to bolt the starter on the block and check to see if it will engage the flywheel.

Bryan

[dave's63]

Thank for the tips Carl & Bryan. I'm on the hunt now for either a 309 or a machinist who knows his stuff. I'll keep you posted.
Dave

[gg63]

Here's one. Buy it quick.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-63-64-6...sories&vxp=mtr

Of course for that cost I'd be thinking about about a steel scattershield for a Chevy II from Lakewood. Only $75 bucks more and you could run your 168 tooth flywheel if you want.

I wouldn't machine the 6 cylinder piece. Just throwing good money at an inferior part.

Any Chevy bellhousing will bolt up to your engine. You just need to match your flywheel to your starter and bellhousing. The 309 just has the clutch fork opening clocked to clear the floor pan on the Chevy II. All the others will create clearance issues

[dave's63]

Thx gg3, I was thinking the machine route may not be a good alternative. I was hoping i might get a deall like Bryan gave, $100 ! Not sure if this e-bay offer is a fair price?? Anyone else thing this is a fair price for a 309?
THX
David

[Carl Stevenson]

No, if you are patient they can be had under 200 bucks.

[63novassrt]

I have a 309 bell housing for sale $125 plus shipping
thank you
Craig

[nova656567]

Regarding the 6-cylinder flywheel: The 250 cu.in sixers used the same flywheel as the SBC. Not sure if the 194's or 230's would fit the crank flange as I haven't tried it.

Walt

[dave's63]

Hi Craig, I sent you PM, let me know. THX David

Originally Posted by 63novassrt

I have a 309 bell housing for sale $125 plus shipping
thank you
Craig

[hbanger]

Originally Posted by nova656567

Regarding the 6-cylinder flywheel: The 250 cu.in sixers used the same flywheel as the SBC. Not sure if the 194's or 230's would fit the crank flange as I haven't tried it.

Walt

When i switched from a 194 to a 250 and a Muncie 4 speed I had to get a different flywheel because the one from the 194 uses a 9.28 inch clutch disc which I couldnt find at any local parts stores
the one that I bought said it was for a 194 and it was a 10 inch clutch so I had to get a flywheel for a 283 which bolted right on and used a 10 inch clutch
I found all of this out after I had my 194 flywheel resurfaced
The 194 flywheel fit on the 250 same bolt pattern

[dave's63]

hbanger, sounds like you were burned somewhat? I tryin to learn from others who like you are willing to share the ups, downs & fun of a build project. Thx for your two cents.
David

Originally Posted by hbanger

When i switched from a 194 to a 250 and a Muncie 4 speed I had to get a different flywheel because the one from the 194 uses a 9.28 inch clutch disc which I couldnt find at any local parts stores
the one that I bought said it was for a 194 and it was a 10 inch clutch so I had to get a flywheel for a 283 which bolted right on and used a 10 inch clutch
I found all of this out after I had my 194 flywheel resurfaced
The 194 flywheel fit on the 250 same bolt pattern

[canadian acadian]

Originally Posted by gg63

Here's one. Buy it quick.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-63-64-6...sories&vxp=mtr

Of course for that cost I'd be thinking about about a steel scattershield for a Chevy II from Lakewood. Only $75 bucks more and you could run your 168 tooth flywheel if you want.

I wouldn't machine the 6 cylinder piece. Just throwing good money at an inferior part.

Any Chevy bellhousing will bolt up to your engine. You just need to match your flywheel to your starter and bellhousing. The 309 just has the clutch fork opening clocked to clear the floor pan on the Chevy II. All the others will create clearance issues

does anyone know for certian if the 15050 scattershield will fit the 168 tooth flywheel?