Anybody want to follow along with my 4 speed conversion? Could use some help :)

[okeesignguy]

I have started gathering parts for the swap, it's been many years since I have done this so I could use some help and advise from you all....

I have just acquired some parts from my brothers 72 vette that he is doing a frame up resto on....
He has owned this car for about 30 years and is going to replace the 4 speed with a Tremic.....

So.....I have the Muncie M-20 as well as the original GM flywheel and a Hurst Comp shifter that he also had laying around.....

The trany is at a friends trany shop to be "gone thru"....rebuilt....
I had the flywheel turned and am posting some pix here for help in my bellhousing search....as well as clutch etc....

What size clutch will I need and does anybody have any recommendations of exactly what I should buy...?

Please understand that this car will never be raced and for the most part be driven sanely Although I will definitely do some gear bangin' and some clutch poppin' for sure....
I am thinking something like an SS would have come stock and definitely American made...maybe an 11 inch LUK..?
Keep in mind that I don't want spend an arm and a leg for a clutch....

I am also looking for the original looking shifter "arm" that will bolt onto the Hurst as well as the piece for my console to replace the automatic shifter "slider" with a stock appearing 4 speed shifter "boot/slider"....
Any help on finding those at the best price would be greatly appreciated as well....

Thanx for any help

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[okeesignguy]

I remember seeing a stock appearing shift lever that bolts to a Hurst but I don't remember what site I saw it on....anyone know...?
Hurst makes a ton of them but they are not listed according to exact car applications....
I have buckets with a console....

[MBZTECH]

Heres a link to most of the parts you will need they might even be the same parts for you're application. RICK
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=185003

[okeesignguy]

Originally Posted by MBZTECH

Heres a link to most of the parts you will need they might even be the same parts for you're application. RICK
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=185003

Thanx!!! Lots of good info there

[okeesignguy]

Here is some stuff I am pretty sure I need...
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I am not sure if I really need this or not....?????
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This is the kit I intend on buying...
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Any advise on any of this...?
Thanx!

[MBZTECH]

You will need all of those parts. The top pic is for center console if you have one. RICK

[Carl Stevenson]

What year are you doing? You have a mixture of years there with the parts pictures you posted.

[okeesignguy]

Originally Posted by Carl Stevenson

What year are you doing? You have a mixture of years there with the parts pictures you posted.

It's a 72 and I believe that all of these are correct...
Mine does have the console...and I know that the top part is correct...
I assume that the boot and retainer go on top of the steel "hump"
The KIT on the bottom is from SS396...

[okeesignguy]

I am having trouble finding an install kit as nobody (including Hurst) shows a kit for a Nova WITH console for anything other than a 1968.....?????
My car has a console....

I can't see it being different for a 72 when they use the same console...?
They all list kit #373-4529 for a 68 WITH a console.....
I tend to think that is the correct one....

Same thing for the stick....I have been told that stick #538-4106 would be the correct sick..?

Anybody know for sure...?

[okeesignguy]

What about the trany mount...? What will that be...?
Do I ask for a mount for a Muncie in a 72 Nova...?

What about a clutch...?
I am thinking of going with a Luk...I understand that they make them for GM...?
This is a street cat, will Never be raced but will definitely have a few "hot suppers"
Thanx!

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by okeesignguy

I am having trouble finding an install kit as nobody (including Hurst) shows a kit for a Nova WITH console for anything other than a 1968.....?????
My car has a console....

I can't see it being different for a 72 when they use the same console...?
They all list kit #373-4529 for a 68 WITH a console.....
I tend to think that is the correct one....

Same thing for the stick....I have been told that stick #538-4106 would be the correct sick..?

Anybody know for sure...?

I have news for ya.

The shifter itself won't work either. Been there, done that.

C3 Vettes have a straight stick mounted straight up in the shifter body.

3rd gen Novas (or at least my '68) use a stick angled rearward, and also have an offset shifter arm connecting the stick to the shifter internals.

If you get your hands on an old Nova shifter you can rip it apart and take out the arm you need, and then swap it into the vette shifter body.

Since you are an auto now, you CAN cut a hole in the floor to make your shifter work but you may not be able to use the hump or your console that way.

[Carl Stevenson]

Definitely the hump above the kit is for a 67 or older.

The rest may be right, I don't know the 68 and up Novas very well.

[okeesignguy]

What about the trany mount...? What will that be...?
Do I ask for a mount for a Muncie in a 72 Nova...?

What about a clutch...?
I am thinking of going with a Luk...I understand that they make them for GM...?
This is a street cat, will Never be raced but will definitely have a few "hot suppers"
Thanx!

[okeesignguy]

When changing the pedals does this piece also need to be changed...?

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[Carl Stevenson]

No, that stays the same, auto or manual.