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Old 1st-November-2009, 12:31 PM   #16
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well at least we know what the cap looks like- is the red correct for the three spinners or the black- the set I purchased were mothballed as well and have the red that looks to match the condition of the hubcap-
I have NO idea where the red tri-bar came from or if it is original. I really don't remember any SS cars with that hubcap.

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[i] have not seen a brochure showing a picture so its still an opinion-
It's too bad that the site at http://www.classicnovas.net/brochure/index.htm is down right now. The '66 sales brochure clearly shows the Nova SS with the black tri-bars.

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in my case not having a perfect car but a correc car is my goal as the car is very original- caps were gone and rallys put on. What looks the best is not always what you use when you want originality- the 66s are not that bad- lots of worse looking ones on other models- so the cap in the second post is the only cap that came on the 66 ss other than the fancy wire option is that correct?
Well, that's certainly my opinion, as well as that of 2chevy2s and mad_max. I can only say that I hung out at the local Chevy dealer nearly every day back then and I don't remember ever seeing the red tri-bars.

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If they were also on chevelles which I did not know and have never seen is it possible they were on other cars? I also have to buy 14 inch tires so did the factory 66 ss have a whitewall? Now I know you could buy a whitewall but if it came from the factory and you did not ask the dealer would it have the narrow white wall.
SS cars came with both whitewalls and blackwalls. The whitewalls were option P67 and were size 6.95x14. If you have your build-sheet, it will tell you which ones your car had originally. I'm not sure of the exact width of the whitewall itself, but Coker Tire shows them in both 5/8" and 7/8". My money would be on the 7/8" for an original '66 look.
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Old 1st-November-2009, 04:20 PM   #17
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ok so I do not have the build sheet only the firewall numbers- ? theye say ss car with v-8 custom seat belts roman red- so I guess if I do not have a build sheet the opton is up to me- I like the whitewalls with original caps how do the rest of you feel? Court is still out for me on the red vresus the black on the caps- if they differ that little what did the red come on if you are sure they were not on66 - saw an original hubcap catalogue but it was in black and white so it did not show color- but it showed one cap for 66 nova- chevy 11 other than custom spokes which I cannot justify or find- hang in there someone must believe in red- the mystery in my mind remains until I see a color brochure so I like the black border with the red ss but am not sold on the proof- big deal not so much but now is my time to make it righlt so far the blacks are ahead- thanks all of you Ron
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Old 1st-November-2009, 07:25 PM   #18
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All original car.........

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Old 2nd-November-2009, 11:14 PM   #19
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66 ss hubcaps

I guess this closes the discussion however I have seen so many red 66s that I am not convinced they were not on 66s- the black looks the best and the offer of the brochure with the corect picture was never posted so the case is still out on red or black- most of the real strong feelings were for the black but can someone tell me where did the red come from- I have seen several sets of red and no blacks on a live basis- just got my wheels mounted with the small whitewall and will change from red to black as my car is black- with a moch up the black on the spinners and the red ss look the best- I cannot see why people think they are ugly I think they look great- one year one decent cap I could not be happier- the car had rally wheels which did not look good on the car at all plus they are incorrect- glad I made the change- the car is very correct in most issues and the original 66 caps made a huge differance torward correct and are one of the first things for someone who knows his nova sees- by golly that must be a 66 or he has the wrong caps - pull up closer I want to see the badging and be sure it is correct.
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I guess this closes the discussion however I have seen so many red 66s that I am not convinced they were not on 66s- the black looks the best and the offer of the brochure with the corect picture was never posted...

OK, ya talked me into it...

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and heres this.. harder to see the caps but this is my car right after I bought it....

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Now, I'm not saying a 66 SS was never built with red barred caps but I've seen alot of 66 Novas in the 23 years I've owned mine and I've never seen one with red bars.

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Old 3rd-November-2009, 05:58 AM   #21
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i guess this closes the discussion however i have seen so many red 66s that i am not convinced they were not on 66s- the black looks the best and the offer of the brochure with the corect picture was never posted so the case is still out on red or black- most of the real strong feelings were for the black but can someone tell me where did the red come from- i have seen several sets of red and no blacks on a live basis- just got my wheels mounted with the small whitewall and will change from red to black as my car is black- with a moch up the black on the spinners and the red ss look the best- i cannot see why people think they are ugly i think they look great- one year one decent cap i could not be happier- the car had rally wheels which did not look good on the car at all plus they are incorrect- glad i made the change- the car is very correct in most issues and the original 66 caps made a huge differance torward correct and are one of the first things for someone who knows his nova sees- by golly that must be a 66 or he has the wrong caps - pull up closer i want to see the badging and be sure it is correct.
I tried to scan the brochures but something is not trasfering the pictures to my Picasa picture site. Can not figure it out. The story with the red tribars is that those hubcaps were used on 1965 Chevelle SS. Then Chevy decided to use these hubcaps on the chevy ii ss by only changeing the color on the hubcaps. The tribars were red and changed to black. Also on the whole cap there is a different color around the openings which is darker on the Chevy II. I have some caps from both vehicles not touched, original from back then. Side by side you can really see the diference. Sorry i could not get the pictures up. I am fairly new to all aspects of useing computers.
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Old 3rd-November-2009, 09:59 AM   #22
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that blasted red or black

I also have problems sometimes with pictures and thank-you very much- I will check out the 1965 chevelle caps- I think you have likely done your homework and I really had no idea that black esisted in fact two months ago I did not even know the correct cap for my car so who I am to argue- all I can do is ask for help and this site has good people and no mean remarks to far. Like I said I will go to the black- for sure the caps are the correct cap for the car even if they were on a 1965 chevelle which I doubt because the set I bought came of an original ss 66 nova and were stored for years and were indeed red - red faded and some minor pitting and scrathes which cleaned up good enough for my car. If someone has a good shot or leterature showing the black- or for that matter the red please post a picture- for now I will have black with only the ss red. Good looking cap in my mind and looks great on the car- one year one cap and not at all ugly.
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Old 3rd-November-2009, 08:47 PM   #23
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OK, ya talked me into it...

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and heres this.. harder to see the caps but this is my car right after I bought it....

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Now, I'm not saying a 66 SS was never built with red barred caps but I've seen alot of 66 Novas in the 23 years I've owned mine and I've never seen one with red bars.
I think your brochure has me favoring and honoring your judgement and accuracy along with the history of your car. The correct cap has been proven and that was my main concern- like I said I am going to use the black as the red is badly faided and some red missing- not concourse caps but still look good on my car which is not a concourse car-thanks mad max
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Old 4th-November-2009, 06:22 PM   #24
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Glad to help whenever I can. If you have a picture of your car (w/ or w/o the caps ) I'd like to see it. I dig novas original or not.
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Old 6th-November-2009, 10:38 PM   #25
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Glad to help whenever I can. If you have a picture of your car (w/ or w/o the caps ) I'd like to see it. I dig novas original or not.
have gathered 8 caps all with the red border and upon taking off the spinner for cleaning they all had this part number-3860243- when I removed the rally wheels the caps said made in China and that was it for me- the correct cap for my 66 ss in the best condition I can find them in and thus the journey. I have two real nice caps and two that look ok from about five feet- in fact the whole car looks better the further away you get. I want my car to speak american so I like the old parts whenever possibe- rather have an original in good shape- not perfect than a China look alike- sometimes though that is what you have to use- hawso- and oh I do like the 66 correct ss caps better than the rallys for the next year and when I showed the car to one of my younger chums he said it looks old with the cap and the whitewall - well it is old and came with a cap and a whitewall if you wanted- need some china rallys for your 67- how much is a yen worth-
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