A New Oil Pan Option

I just got a custom order rear sump 6 quart pan from Kevco Racing for use with a stock front clip (no power steering). Unlike all the other Nova pans that have at least a 8.5 inch sump, this one is only 7.5 inches, and has kickouts for added volume. I asked Kevin to modify an existing roadrace pan he already made, adding a small notch to clear the center link. Since my car has a 2" drop, I need all the clearance I can get. I have not yet installed the pan but did slide it under the motor and it looks like it will fit with plenty of room to spare.

I had talked to Canton about doing the same thing, but after 3 weeks of waiting for an answer, they said it would take 8-10 weeks to do. :eek::confused: So I called Kevin, sent him a drawing of what I wanted and he shipped it 4 days later. :D And the price was less than the Canton pan before mods. :yes::D:D


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ZNova, I DO NOT NEED A NEW KEVCO OIL PAN FOR MY CAR! :no: I want one, but I don't NEED one and I'm going to keep telling myself that. :turn: :devil:

Did Kevco hook you up with a pickup to go with that pan also?? I like! :)

Bob, the pan looks great. Maybe it's just the pic but it sure looks deeper than 7.5". Keep us posted of how it fit's in the chassis.

I'm gonna have to get me one of those, an extra 1" of ground clearance would be great.

Nice looking pan:yes: 1" more between life... & death.

how much oil will that pan hold?is that 6 qts. before the notch was done, what was the cost
don

What about the oil pick up? Stock one or what?

ZNova, I DO NOT NEED A NEW KEVCO OIL PAN FOR MY CAR! :no: I want one, but I don't NEED one and I'm going to keep telling myself that. :turn: :devil:

Did Kevco hook you up with a pickup to go with that pan also?? I like! :)

LOL! Yes, he included a pickup. With the Meeling 55HV from Summit, the total cost was less than $300.

how much oil will that pan hold?is that 6 qts. before the notch was done, what was the cost
don

I actually put 6 quarts in the pan as delivered and measured 3.5" from the top of the pan rail to top of fluid. That is right at the maximum distance to the rod bolts on my 3.75" crank. With the filter the level will be slightly less and that is what I plan to run. I may be giving up some HP due to windage, but since is for a daily driver, I think it is a good trade off. Total cost for the pan and pickup was $260, including shipping. :D.

Thats a sweet pan and the price is not bad. Does his pickup bolt on to the support or does it need to be tacked on.

That is one wild looking pan.:yes: Keep us posted on what it looks like on the car. Do you still have to drop the link to put it on?

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I know this isn't on topic but i have that same die cast nova car thats in the background :D

Ditto on the Nova in the background

Hmm...if I didn't already have the Canton pan...and a PW oil pump with the Canton pickup welded on...

Cool looking pan there ZNova,

Will Kevin make a 7" standard rear sump pan for those who upgrade and go with the Churchboy R&P? Thx. Smitty

7 inches deep, do not know how much oil it holds. Available in steel or aluminum. Steel is $150 and aluminum is $350

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http://www.kevkoracing.com/wetsump_chevy.htm

Hey ZNova, are the numbers on the box "6267" the job number or have they assigned this number as a part number?
Also, could you take a pic from overhead so that I can see the scraper and the pan notches.
Thanks Mike

I dealt with kevin (kevKo) for about three years.. ordered 4 pans from him... never a disappointment....

and always well packed, shipping reasonable, and fast....

Custom one off stuff was not an issue... ordered a pan for a SBF dart block in 65 stang... one off custom.... very good price and to my door in 5 days.... I will never buy another pan from any one else...

7 inches deep, do not know how much oil it holds. Available in steel or aluminum. Steel is $150 and aluminum is $350

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http://www.kevkoracing.com/wetsump_chevy.htm

Thx for this info. I will look them up when the time comes. Looks like thay have some nice stuff.

Hey ZNova, are the numbers on the box "6267" the job number or have they assigned this number as a part number?
Also, could you take a pic from overhead so that I can see the scraper and the pan notches.
Thanks Mike

Mike,
Will do As soon as I get back home. I am out of town, will be back Friday. Stay tuned.

Bob

That is cool! Anxious to see pics of it installed!

Did you ever get this pan installed? Could you post pictures when you do?

Bump, Looking forward to the pics :D

Hmmm, like Brent, I am subscribing to this thread and trying not to buy my 3rd oil pan... :rolleyes::D

I would like to see it to.:yes:

Have you had a chance to install this pan yet?

I put a hole in my milodon pan last night and need a solution.

Sorry about the delay in responding, but June was a crazy month for me. Started with my wife in the hospital for a few days, a high school grad, a college grad, a week long conference, then last weekend sitting on a well north of Paso Robles. Everyone is doing fine and I am actually pulling the old motor today :yes:. With the holiday weekend, it will probably a few more days before I get the new one in. I will post pics as soon as I do.

Finally got the motor in with the new pan. It fits with room to spare. As you can see the notch for the center link could be lower and may not be needed at all. I'll have to see how it clears with the wheel at full turn, but looks like I will have plenty of room. Note that the oil pan has about the same ground clearance os the trans pan :yes::D.



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Hey
that does tuck up there nice!!
thanks for the pics..

Finally got the motor in with the new pan. It fits with room to spare. As you can see the notch for the center link could be lower and may not be needed at all. I'll have to see how it clears with the wheel at full turn, but looks like I will have plenty of room. Note that the oil pan has about the same ground clearance os the trans pan :yes::D.



This is one of those good news, bad news things.
Good News= I'm glad to see it worked out like ya planned, and I really like the way it fits.

Bad News= Now I gotta get me one

Does it clear the tie rods at full steering turn? Looks good!!!

Wonder it that kick-out on the filter side will clear clutch linkage?

It will be a couple more days before I get it fired up. I'll give an update after I get a chance to drive it.

What a tease, we need an update! :D

I'm really interested if it would clear the tie rods without adding the notch.

What a tease, we need an update! :D

I'm really interested if it would clear the tie rods without adding the notch.

If you look at the pics it has the notch:yes:

Finally got the motor fired last night, it sounds good:yes::D:D. It took way longer to get everything sorted out than I expected, but that's another story. Drove it several miles, including some sharp turns, no clearance problems of any kind. I think it would be fine without the notch. Sorry, but I fogot to check the ground clearnace with everything else going on. I will do that and post it, but I looks to be enough to stay out of trouble.

Finally got the motor fired last night, it sounds good:yes::D:D. It took way longer to get everything sorted out than I expected, but that's another story. Drove it several miles, including some sharp turns, no clearance problems of any kind. I think it would be fine without the notch. Sorry, but I fogot to check the ground clearnace with everything else going on. I will do that and post it, but I looks to be enough to stay out of trouble.

what size are your front tires? mine are m/t 24 x ??. I was thinking of switching to the 26's to get another inch of clearance.

Watch out for the tire diameter, at some point you may run into fender interference at the front corner of the wheel opening. I'm in the middle of shopping for new front tires now (and was thinking of going taller for exactly the same reason).

what size are your front tires? mine are m/t 24 x ??. I was thinking of switching to the 26's to get another inch of clearance.

I just changed over to 205/65-15 (25.5" diameter) to get more clearance. I have 6" rims with 3.5" BS and wouldn't go any bigger on the diameter. In fact the tires do rub at full turn and I will go to a smaller tire when I replace these.

I measured the ground clearance to the pan, about 4.5" :D:D. I am very happy with this pan! :yes::yes::D. The only thing I would do different is leave the notch out or at least make it smaller. I just wanted to be sure it cleared the center link once I got the motor in. I put 6 quarts in (including filter), M55HV pump and Kevco pickup with bracket that bolts to the pump. Oil pressure is steady at about 50 psi, and I may try 5-1/2 quarts when I change oil just to avoid windage. Some pics:

The oil pan is about same height as the trans pan
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from the front (left rear tire is off the ground, but right is not. Ride height is correct)
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Car not to scale :rolleyes:
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Thanks for doing all of this Bob.

I think you have solved a major problem for all of us 1st and 2nd gen owners:yes:

If/when I call Kevco to get one of these, is there a specific part number to ask for, or do I just tell him I want the set-up he built for you.

Bill,
After seeing first hand the potential disaster from a common rear sump pan being crunched and losing oil, fighting the front sump problem for 3 months and then finding this solution, I am happy to share any info with others. :yes:

Just mention my name to Kevin, he will remember. He should still have the drawing (to scale) I sent and can work from that. If not I can send you the Adobe file. Just let him know if you want it with or without a notch. FYI, Canton has a similar pan, but only for two-piece rear mains. Check their website under road race pans for SBC.

Any issues with a 4-speed?

Pan looks great. I use a morroso pan with some problems with turning and rubbing the notch.

Dave
67 Nova boy

Any issues with a 4-speed?

Pan looks great. I use a morroso pan with some problems with turning and rubbing the notch.

Dave
67 Nova boy

I've got a TH350, but I can't see that there would be a problem with a 4-speed. Maybe some of the guys with 4-speeds could confirm this.

Bill,
After seeing first hand the potential disaster from a common rear sump pan being crunched and losing oil, fighting the front sump problem for 3 months and then finding this solution, I am happy to share any info with others. :yes:

Just mention my name to Kevin, he will remember. He should still have the drawing (to scale) I sent and can work from that. If not I can send you the Adobe file. Just let him know if you want it with or without a notch. FYI, Canton has a similar pan, but only for two-piece rear mains. Check their website under road race pans for SBC.

I just bought one from Kevco. They had one ready to go. He said they have been selling more and more of them. The notch isn't in the one I got.

I think the price was under $250 with the pick up I needed. Great service. I highly recommend them. :yes:

I just bought one from Kevco. They had one ready to go. He said they have been selling more and more of them. The notch isn't in the one I got.

I think the price was under $250 with the pick up I needed. Great service. I highly recommend them. :yes:


Is it for a stock front clip?

Can you post a picture and provide the part# for the pan without the notch?

Is it for a stock front clip?

Can you post a picture and provide the part# for the pan without the notch?

Bill, I believe this is the same pan I have on my 67, which has a stock front clip. I say this because I had Kevin put a notch in mine for the center link and found the pan would have cleared it fine without the notch. I have put probably 2000 miles on the new motor and pan now without any problems.

Bill I bought the same pan from Kevco a few months back for my 66 with a stock front clip, Kevin no longer puts the notch in the pan and it fits like a dream. Money well spent IMO. If you need the part number let me know and I can dig it out of the receipt pile. :eek:

Are these oil pans for a 1 or 2 piece rear main seal?

two piece rear main

Ordered my Kevco pan today:D:D

This is officialy the last oil pan (3rd) I'm buying for this car:o

This is officialy the last oil pan (3rd) I'm buying for this car:o

Did I miss something? What pan are you replacing...and why?

Bill..

I have been totally, awesomely, tubluarly, cohesively, happy with every Kevko pan I have ever ordered..

Did I miss something? What pan are you replacing...and why?


When I bought the car it had a Milodon deeeeeeeeep sump that leaked like a butchered pig. I found quite a few cracked weld's on it.
Replaced it with a Moroso, not quite as deeeeeep of a sump but still deep. After it was on the car about 2 months it sprung a mysterious leak on one of the welds, there was not a single scrape mark on the pan, so that ruled out that I might have hit something. Had it tigged and a "skid plate" put around where the crack occured.
The pan has always made me nervous with the 3" ground clearance

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The Kevco pan is giving me an extra 1.5 inches of clearance, and when I replace my front tires with a 45 series instead of a 40 series I'll pick up another 1/2 an inch. 2 more inches of clearance will let me breath easier when I'm driving.

Ah...I see. My car had the moroso pan on it when I first bought it, that was one of the first things that I changed out.

Here's my Canton...haven't gotten it off the ramps yet, so I can't say what the ground clearance is yet. Fingers crossed... If it doesn't look like enough I may be calling Kevco myself. I bought taller tires too...

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Hello All, Newbie Here

Been checking the site and found this thread.

I am installing an 05 Trailblazer 4.2L Engine and 4L60E Trans into my 67.

What is the Life / Death ground clearance for the 67?

This engine has a HUGE Aluminum oil pan with a Front Sump, the drain plug on the bottom extends another inch below the pan sump, will probably have to plug it and move it to another location for sure.

The trans has a deep pan too, so I guess I need the clearance there, assuming that it should be the same too.

What is the absolute minimum ground clearance the car should have for safety's sake, and that one I can live with without any worries?

Thanks,

Dusty

I would have to go measure but 4-4.5 inches at the lowest point is I think how low my old pan was.I will measure mine tomorrow.

Update: my car is off the ramps, and I measured 4.5" clearance (rear edge is the lowest spot) with the Canton pan. Not as much as I'd like, but...I think it'll work. Gotta check the front tire pressure though as they looked a shade low, and that might get me another smidgen.

Hello

Thanks for the Oil Pan ground clearance inputs.

I guess I will shoot for about 4 inches or less to be sure.

Thanks Again,

Dusty

Hello Again

One other question Please

What is the measurement from the floor or road surface to the bottom of the subframe structure "not" at the bottom of the brackets for the sway bar mounting points?

The reason I am asking is because, I have the vehicle on jack stands and it is not at the proper curb weight yet, and won't be for quite some time yet.

This measurement will enable me to check the ground clearance that I will have before I get the car finished and on the ground with everything installed and ready for the road.

Thanks Again

Dusty

I have a Kevco pan and not to happy with it, first off it doesn't want to seal, had to modify it for starter fitment and the thing had so much metal residue that it took hours to clean. If you buy one good luck:eek:

I have a Kevco pan and not to happy with it, first off it doesn't want to seal, had to modify it for starter fitment and the thing had so much metal residue that it took hours to clean. If you buy one good luck:eek:

Same here. Did get mine dry lots of silicon.

Had many of the same problems. Finally went with with the 7 quart sold everywhere took a sheet of 10 gauge steel, wrapped around the bottom and welded all the way around. Like having a skid plate attached to the pan. So far so good, had already gone through both a Milodon and Moroso. Also think changing out the cast iron heads for aluminum took some weight off the front end and this also is a big help.

I have a Kevco pan and not to happy with it, first off it doesn't want to seal, had to modify it for starter fitment and the thing had so much metal residue that it took hours to clean. If you buy one good luck:eek:

Same here. Did get mine dry lots of silicon.

Mines been on for about 2 months now, maybe 500 miles and no leaks yet.

This is what you will be doing if your oil pan is to low:( "And then call AAA Cuz your day is done":eek:
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This is what you will be doing if your oil pan is to low:( "And then call AAA Cuz your day is done":eek:
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You will also need to call a spill response team to keep the EPA off you back:devil::devil:

Well 2200miles on the pan and still dry.:clap:

never saw this thread, but very nice pan. i like the fact there's like a skid plate on the bottom also, i guess just in case it ever touches down....

LIL JOHN

Hmm...if I didn't already have the Canton pan...and a PW oil pump with the Canton pickup welded on...

I can fix that if you send it back with the Kevko pickup.

i have been studying the pics of the kevko pans and i started working on fabricating my own version. i cut the bottom off of a reg rear sump oil pan and i have made a cardboard mockup of the rest of the pan. i have a four speed, so i have to clear the clutch linkage, and like everyone else, im battling ground clearance issues. i have 2" drop spindles and coilovers so clearance is essential. im also going to try and integrate a skidplate into the bottom. its a fairly ambitious fab project, but hell, free is cheaper than $200. ill post some pics wen im done fabbing it, if anyone stil reads this thread and is interested!!:devil:

i have been studying the pics of the kevko pans and i started working on fabricating my own version. i cut the bottom off of a reg rear sump oil pan and i have made a cardboard mockup of the rest of the pan. i have a four speed, so i have to clear the clutch linkage, and like everyone else, im battling ground clearance issues. i have 2" drop spindles and coilovers so clearance is essential. im also going to try and integrate a skidplate into the bottom. its a fairly ambitious fab project, but hell, free is cheaper than $200. ill post some pics wen im done fabbing it, if anyone stil reads this thread and is interested!!:devil:

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3DTim, how deep is that pan you got from Kevco? I am looking at one of there 7" deep ones. Thx!

3DTim, how deep is that pan you got from Kevco? I am looking at one of there 7" deep ones. Thx!

Mine is the 7" one. Love it but I had to use a lot of silicone to get it dry. Also you need to tell them what starter you are using.