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ZNova
26th-May-2008, 11:30 AM
I just got a custom order rear sump 6 quart pan from Kevco Racing for use with a stock front clip (no power steering). Unlike all the other Nova pans that have at least a 8.5 inch sump, this one is only 7.5 inches, and has kickouts for added volume. I asked Kevin to modify an existing roadrace pan he already made, adding a small notch to clear the center link. Since my car has a 2" drop, I need all the clearance I can get. I have not yet installed the pan but did slide it under the motor and it looks like it will fit with plenty of room to spare.
I had talked to Canton about doing the same thing, but after 3 weeks of waiting for an answer, they said it would take 8-10 weeks to do. :eek::confused: So I called Kevin, sent him a drawing of what I wanted and he shipped it 4 days later. :D And the price was less than the Canton pan before mods. :yes::D:D
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3169.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3171.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3175.jpg
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NovatoriusRex
26th-May-2008, 11:55 AM
ZNova, I DO NOT NEED A NEW KEVCO OIL PAN FOR MY CAR! :no: I want one, but I don't NEED one and I'm going to keep telling myself that. :turn: :devil:
Did Kevco hook you up with a pickup to go with that pan also?? I like! :)
klean63
26th-May-2008, 12:21 PM
Bob, the pan looks great. Maybe it's just the pic but it sure looks deeper than 7.5". Keep us posted of how it fit's in the chassis.
I'm gonna have to get me one of those, an extra 1" of ground clearance would be great.
1badnov
26th-May-2008, 12:31 PM
Nice looking pan:yes: 1" more between life... & death.
lisandon95386
26th-May-2008, 12:50 PM
how much oil will that pan hold?is that 6 qts. before the notch was done, what was the cost
don
laser-red-nova
26th-May-2008, 02:01 PM
What about the oil pick up? Stock one or what?
ZNova
26th-May-2008, 02:38 PM
ZNova, I DO NOT NEED A NEW KEVCO OIL PAN FOR MY CAR! :no: I want one, but I don't NEED one and I'm going to keep telling myself that. :turn: :devil:
Did Kevco hook you up with a pickup to go with that pan also?? I like! :)
LOL! Yes, he included a pickup. With the Meeling 55HV from Summit, the total cost was less than $300.
ZNova
26th-May-2008, 02:47 PM
how much oil will that pan hold?is that 6 qts. before the notch was done, what was the cost
don
I actually put 6 quarts in the pan as delivered and measured 3.5" from the top of the pan rail to top of fluid. That is right at the maximum distance to the rod bolts on my 3.75" crank. With the filter the level will be slightly less and that is what I plan to run. I may be giving up some HP due to windage, but since is for a daily driver, I think it is a good trade off. Total cost for the pan and pickup was $260, including shipping. :D.
65post
26th-May-2008, 04:05 PM
Thats a sweet pan and the price is not bad. Does his pickup bolt on to the support or does it need to be tacked on.
3DTim
26th-May-2008, 07:12 PM
That is one wild looking pan.:yes: Keep us posted on what it looks like on the car. Do you still have to drop the link to put it on?
elblako91
26th-May-2008, 07:18 PM
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3171.jpg
I know this isn't on topic but i have that same die cast nova car thats in the background :D
laser-red-nova
26th-May-2008, 08:38 PM
Ditto on the Nova in the background
patman
26th-May-2008, 09:32 PM
Hmm...if I didn't already have the Canton pan...and a PW oil pump with the Canton pickup welded on...
Smittys62
27th-May-2008, 09:06 PM
Cool looking pan there ZNova,
Will Kevin make a 7" standard rear sump pan for those who upgrade and go with the Churchboy R&P? Thx. Smitty
Nova 404
27th-May-2008, 10:42 PM
7 inches deep, do not know how much oil it holds. Available in steel or aluminum. Steel is $150 and aluminum is $350
http://www.kevkoracing.com/images/1074_full.jpg
http://www.kevkoracing.com/images/1075_full.jpg
http://www.kevkoracing.com/wetsump_chevy.htm
novamike
28th-May-2008, 03:16 PM
Hey ZNova, are the numbers on the box "6267" the job number or have they assigned this number as a part number?
Also, could you take a pic from overhead so that I can see the scraper and the pan notches.
Thanks Mike
veno
28th-May-2008, 06:02 PM
I dealt with kevin (kevKo) for about three years.. ordered 4 pans from him... never a disappointment....
and always well packed, shipping reasonable, and fast....
Custom one off stuff was not an issue... ordered a pan for a SBF dart block in 65 stang... one off custom.... very good price and to my door in 5 days.... I will never buy another pan from any one else...
Smittys62
28th-May-2008, 06:35 PM
7 inches deep, do not know how much oil it holds. Available in steel or aluminum. Steel is $150 and aluminum is $350
http://www.kevkoracing.com/images/1074_full.jpg
http://www.kevkoracing.com/images/1075_full.jpg
http://www.kevkoracing.com/wetsump_chevy.htm
Thx for this info. I will look them up when the time comes. Looks like thay have some nice stuff.
ZNova
28th-May-2008, 11:38 PM
Hey ZNova, are the numbers on the box "6267" the job number or have they assigned this number as a part number?
Also, could you take a pic from overhead so that I can see the scraper and the pan notches.
Thanks Mike
Mike,
Will do As soon as I get back home. I am out of town, will be back Friday. Stay tuned.
Bob
John65ss
2nd-June-2008, 11:14 AM
That is cool! Anxious to see pics of it installed!
Nova 404
28th-June-2008, 12:02 PM
Did you ever get this pan installed? Could you post pictures when you do?
Smittys62
30th-June-2008, 02:19 PM
Bump, Looking forward to the pics :D
Greg_R_63
1st-July-2008, 10:45 PM
Hmmm, like Brent, I am subscribing to this thread and trying not to buy my 3rd oil pan... :rolleyes::D
3DTim
1st-July-2008, 11:32 PM
I would like to see it to.:yes:
66&67chevyII's
3rd-July-2008, 10:37 AM
Have you had a chance to install this pan yet?
I put a hole in my milodon pan last night and need a solution.
ZNova
3rd-July-2008, 11:08 AM
Sorry about the delay in responding, but June was a crazy month for me. Started with my wife in the hospital for a few days, a high school grad, a college grad, a week long conference, then last weekend sitting on a well north of Paso Robles. Everyone is doing fine and I am actually pulling the old motor today :yes:. With the holiday weekend, it will probably a few more days before I get the new one in. I will post pics as soon as I do.
ZNova
20th-July-2008, 12:47 PM
Finally got the motor in with the new pan. It fits with room to spare. As you can see the notch for the center link could be lower and may not be needed at all. I'll have to see how it clears with the wheel at full turn, but looks like I will have plenty of room. Note that the oil pan has about the same ground clearance os the trans pan :yes::D.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3333.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3335.jpg
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http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3340.jpg
Rich_1028
20th-July-2008, 03:25 PM
Hey
that does tuck up there nice!!
thanks for the pics..
klean63
20th-July-2008, 10:14 PM
Finally got the motor in with the new pan. It fits with room to spare. As you can see the notch for the center link could be lower and may not be needed at all. I'll have to see how it clears with the wheel at full turn, but looks like I will have plenty of room. Note that the oil pan has about the same ground clearance os the trans pan :yes::D.
This is one of those good news, bad news things.
Good News= I'm glad to see it worked out like ya planned, and I really like the way it fits.
Bad News= Now I gotta get me one
John65ss
21st-July-2008, 12:52 PM
Does it clear the tie rods at full steering turn? Looks good!!!
Wonder it that kick-out on the filter side will clear clutch linkage?
ZNova
22nd-July-2008, 09:24 PM
It will be a couple more days before I get it fired up. I'll give an update after I get a chance to drive it.
62Beaumont
31st-July-2008, 11:53 AM
What a tease, we need an update! :D
I'm really interested if it would clear the tie rods without adding the notch.
VooDooII
31st-July-2008, 12:08 PM
What a tease, we need an update! :D
I'm really interested if it would clear the tie rods without adding the notch.
If you look at the pics it has the notch:yes:
ZNova
31st-July-2008, 01:08 PM
Finally got the motor fired last night, it sounds good:yes::D:D. It took way longer to get everything sorted out than I expected, but that's another story. Drove it several miles, including some sharp turns, no clearance problems of any kind. I think it would be fine without the notch. Sorry, but I fogot to check the ground clearnace with everything else going on. I will do that and post it, but I looks to be enough to stay out of trouble.
66&67chevyII's
31st-July-2008, 01:40 PM
Finally got the motor fired last night, it sounds good:yes::D:D. It took way longer to get everything sorted out than I expected, but that's another story. Drove it several miles, including some sharp turns, no clearance problems of any kind. I think it would be fine without the notch. Sorry, but I fogot to check the ground clearnace with everything else going on. I will do that and post it, but I looks to be enough to stay out of trouble.
what size are your front tires? mine are m/t 24 x ??. I was thinking of switching to the 26's to get another inch of clearance.
patman
31st-July-2008, 05:24 PM
Watch out for the tire diameter, at some point you may run into fender interference at the front corner of the wheel opening. I'm in the middle of shopping for new front tires now (and was thinking of going taller for exactly the same reason).
ZNova
1st-August-2008, 11:24 AM
what size are your front tires? mine are m/t 24 x ??. I was thinking of switching to the 26's to get another inch of clearance.
I just changed over to 205/65-15 (25.5" diameter) to get more clearance. I have 6" rims with 3.5" BS and wouldn't go any bigger on the diameter. In fact the tires do rub at full turn and I will go to a smaller tire when I replace these.
ZNova
2nd-August-2008, 12:09 PM
I measured the ground clearance to the pan, about 4.5" :D:D. I am very happy with this pan! :yes::yes::D. The only thing I would do different is leave the notch out or at least make it smaller. I just wanted to be sure it cleared the center link once I got the motor in. I put 6 quarts in (including filter), M55HV pump and Kevco pickup with bracket that bolts to the pump. Oil pressure is steady at about 50 psi, and I may try 5-1/2 quarts when I change oil just to avoid windage. Some pics:
The oil pan is about same height as the trans pan
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3350.jpg
from the front (left rear tire is off the ground, but right is not. Ride height is correct)
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3351.jpg
Car not to scale :rolleyes:
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk69/znova08/383%20roller%20motor/DSCN3354.jpg
klean63
2nd-August-2008, 12:46 PM
Thanks for doing all of this Bob.
I think you have solved a major problem for all of us 1st and 2nd gen owners:yes:
If/when I call Kevco to get one of these, is there a specific part number to ask for, or do I just tell him I want the set-up he built for you.
ZNova
2nd-August-2008, 01:30 PM
Bill,
After seeing first hand the potential disaster from a common rear sump pan being crunched and losing oil, fighting the front sump problem for 3 months and then finding this solution, I am happy to share any info with others. :yes:
Just mention my name to Kevin, he will remember. He should still have the drawing (to scale) I sent and can work from that. If not I can send you the Adobe file. Just let him know if you want it with or without a notch. FYI, Canton has a similar pan, but only for two-piece rear mains. Check their website under road race pans for SBC.
67 Nova Boy
2nd-August-2008, 08:17 PM
Any issues with a 4-speed?
Pan looks great. I use a morroso pan with some problems with turning and rubbing the notch.
Dave
67 Nova boy
ZNova
3rd-August-2008, 02:06 AM
Any issues with a 4-speed?
Pan looks great. I use a morroso pan with some problems with turning and rubbing the notch.
Dave
67 Nova boy
I've got a TH350, but I can't see that there would be a problem with a 4-speed. Maybe some of the guys with 4-speeds could confirm this.
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