70's "High Rider" Nova

Is the High Rider look going to make a comback? You know, N-50's in the back with Hi-Jacker air shocks. Scroll down about half way, and you will see what Im talking about.Under the picture it says scroll up / scroll down
http://www.dicemagazine.com/iss19contents.shtml

Huh? I guess I missed it?Sorry:confused:

Huh? I guess I missed it?Sorry:confused:

Look again:yes::no::yes::no:
Under the picture it says scroll up / scroll down

It's the top pic on the left there's the scroll up/down under it in pink writing,place your mouse on it the pics will scroll through and you'll see a yellow 73/74 Nova.

thats the old school look, and i love it!!:yes:

Duh:turn: Got it! :D I like the bikes!

That car was at last years So Cal BBQ.

It's an old Hot Rod or Car Craft magazine build.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/Lukes_Nova/05.jpg

Thats what "Donks" looked like in the 70's:D

looks like mine does

To each his/hers own but I think theres a reason why people dont build em like that anymore.:rolleyes: jmo

To each his/hers own but I think theres a reason why people dont build em like that anymore.:rolleyes: jmo

Nobody use to like Altered wheelbase novas now look. I see them everywhere. What's old is new.:yes:

Nobody use to like Altered wheelbase novas now look. I see them everywhere. What's old is new.:yes:

I don't think anyone else likes 'em, but I sure do :yes::yes::yes:. I've just gotten tired of the slammed or "pro touring" look (not that it's a bad look, I just wanted something different)

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/tobjo/DSC00733.jpg

To each his/hers own but I think theres a reason why people dont build em like that anymore.:rolleyes: jmo

Since that time we have learned about wind resistance/wind drag. It has been proven that a car sitting lower will get better gas mileage and run faster. Just compare the fuel economy numbers of an SUV/truck to the mpg of a car (with the same displacement engine and similar weight). And look at NASCAR or NHRA cars. The air dams and skirts almost touch the ground. They do not want wind drag under the car. John Lingenfelter documented a sizeable difference in top speed numbers on one of his Corvettes by adding an air dam & skirting the sides of the car. He felt that the air hitting the front of the tires was enough to limit top speed obtainable.

Another consideration are the advancements in tires and suspensions. A lot of the factory suspensions were so flimsy that a straight axle was preferred and the upgrade raised the ride height. The rear was raised to match the front but also because there was no limit to the tire width you could add once the vehicle was higher than the wheel lip. Now we have better tires so you don't need as much tire to get traction. Now we have wheel tubs and the aftermarket has kits to move leafsprings in-board, narrowed differentials, & etc.

I love it also, that's when men were men and weren't afraid to drive a car that handled like a wet dish rag.

I first started noticing muscle cars in the early 1980s before I was old enough to drive. Back then, N-50s, air shocks, L88 hood scoops, Glasspacks dumped in front of the tires, etc were the "hot" thing. I'd actually like to see this look come back. I LOVE nostalgia hot rods... People are already reviving the gasser / super stock look. This would be the next logical progression.

To me, this only works on the 68-up cars (maybe 66-up for a-bodies). By the time this style was hip, I don't remember too many people were messing with the older stuff, since newer, higher powered cars could be had for cheap.

I love the look...
I want one:yes:
Scott

Since that time we have learned about wind resistance/wind drag. It has been proven that a car sitting lower will get better gas mileage and run faster. Just compare the fuel economy numbers of an SUV/truck to the mpg of a car (with the same displacement engine and similar weight). And look at NASCAR or NHRA cars. The air dams and skirts almost touch the ground. They do not want wind drag under the car. John Lingenfelter documented a sizeable difference in top speed numbers on one of his Corvettes by adding an air dam & skirting the sides of the car. He felt that the air hitting the front of the tires was enough to limit top speed obtainable.

Another consideration are the advancements in tires and suspensions. A lot of the factory suspensions were so flimsy that a straight axle was preferred and the upgrade raised the ride height. The rear was raised to match the front but also because there was no limit to the tire width you could add once the vehicle was higher than the wheel lip. Now we have better tires so you don't need as much tire to get traction. Now we have wheel tubs and the aftermarket has kits to move leafsprings in-board, narrowed differentials, & etc.

Dude, you put way to much thought into this. The fact is its a rad old look, & I dig it:yes:

Everything that TPINOVA said is absolutely dead on correct. :yes::yes::yes:

That being said, I love to have to fight to keep the thing in the groove on the road all the while stabbing the clutch to grab the next gear. I also appreciate sounds coming from the suspension the make me wonder whether or not something is about to exit the vehicle.

Next on my list is getting something big and chrome with a couple a carbs on it sticking up through the hood.......:devil::devil::devil::devil:

Like Ed Roth said:

"If I have to explain......."

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa23/1BADNOV/768.jpg

http://users.novaone.net/photoman/1969in1978.jpg

Thats exactly how my car sits. Air-shocks, w/ 295/50/15's. I love it!

Thats what I'm talking about!

Lets see some more:yes::yes::yes:

This is how my nova stands....
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/chriss68/nova11.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg178/chriss68/nova12.jpg

http://users.novaone.net/photoman/1964in1976.jpg

How narley is that scoop????:yes::yes::yes:

But lets keep it to 3rd gens only.

I think we've all done something like this at one time or other....

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova1.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova3.jpg

M

Not you Marlin :eek: :confused:


Tommy :)

I think we've all done something like this at one time or other....

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova1.jpg

M

Not you Marlin :eek: :confused:


Tommy :)

I'm still guilty of it!:eek:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f375/sstaz/Novafullpic001.jpg

That's not guilty, it's fortunate....
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

Keep 'em coming....

I think we've all done something like this at one time or other....

M

No. I've never felt compelled to do that to a car. For some strange reason, I was born thinking that a car jacked up that high in the back looks like an animal with a corn-cob shoved up it's butt. :D

Of course, to each his own. It's a personal preference. I prefer 4x4s that are stock height to lift kits too. So, if you like it, run with it. But I don't want it on my car.

Like Ed Roth said:

"If I have to explain......."


Exactly !!! :yes::yes::yes:

Ah, the 70's...What I've alway known was Kool!
It's what I grew up with and my toys reflect it.

Dice is a great magazine...just too cheap to pay for that limi rag.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii266/GrimmSS70/Nova/nova4-1.jpg
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii266/GrimmSS70/Nova/Bikes/49pan.jpg
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii266/GrimmSS70/Nova/55chevy.jpg

Oh, BTW that yuppie village my 55, is in was where I bought it. The pan is parked by the farm I grew up in.

Dig the pan:yes::yes::yes:
Check out the bikes I've helped make FAMOUS:yes::yes: just click on my signature

Dig the pan:yes::yes::yes:
Check out the bikes I've helped make FAMOUS:yes::yes: just click on my signature
Thanks, she's my baby. Born one pc at a time. Heads (2nd set) came from your neck of the woods, from Pat Lehy out of Long Beach.
Killer stuff. You do the paint? Or All? I recognize some of those bikes. The knuck with the twisted exaust was in the Horse a while back right?

Max Schaaf is a good friend & a awesome painter. We did our wagon:eek:
He built & painted all those bikes, I just did allot of the fabrication on all those bikes with Max (taught him every thing he knows):D That guy has a eye for the look:yes:. The Pan with the z-pipes belongs to Jason Pharis.

Cool, Bikes pulled me out of the cars for awhile. Now it seems cheaper to do cars than the old pans or knucks. Just waiting for my shovels to fetch as much as the pans.


Friends daughter, destined to be a biker chick!
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii266/GrimmSS70/Nova/Bikes/CAPS65DF.jpg

Heres my son on his uncle Maxs bike
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa23/1BADNOV/IMG_4880.jpg

Not you Marlin :eek: :confused:


Tommy :)


Haha!! Everybody starts out somewhere - that was a 6shooter to boot :) I ended up installing a 350/th350 when the 250 took an oil dump - it was more fun with the V8 that's for sure. I sold it to raise funds for my last year of college, but within 2 years of graduating I had bought a one-owner '72 with 60k miles - it didn't get the stinkbug treatment! :no:

M

the only reason I got my "new" '72 Rally factory 4 speed car was the previous owners attempt at building rear flares to fit 12" rims.
he killed a perfectly good set of quarters to do it,got that all knocked off in favor of rolled stock edges.
save the flares for the old vans..as far as the "Old School" look,I grew up in the 70's and it still is "cool" to me.
:)

the only reason I got my "new" '72 Rally factory 4 speed car was the previous owners attempt at building rear flares to fit 12" rims.
he killed a perfectly good set of quarters to do it,got that all knocked off in favor of rolled stock edges.
save the flares for the old vans..as far as the "Old School" look,I grew up in the 70's and it still is "cool" to me.
:)


Pics, we gotta have pics......

Pics, we gotta have pics......
okay..lol
first is when I got it last weekend,
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/racer67x/flaresyuk.jpg
second is last night with partial quarter fitted.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/racer67x/PICT0297.jpg
third pic is my Chevelle I owned for 15 years just in case you think I don't know "Old School"..lmao
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/racer67x/68ragtop.jpg
:)

Here's my 72 Chevelle high rider, I was 21.. Long time ago, 1974....
http://w2ner.net/postings/72chevelle.jpg

Racer, that thing rocks !!!! Also, a tunelram with a white interior ragtop....F'n A!!!!

Slickman, nothing like Ansen slots, are those what you have on your Nova?

One for the Yenko boyz

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa23/1BADNOV/yenko1sm.jpg

One for the Yenko boyz

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa23/1BADNOV/yenko1sm.jpg

Boy we were sure hard on cars in the seventies and eighties:yes::yes:

The "east coast", tail in the air look is great for the two door models, but what about my idea for doing the same for my four door. No opinion is looked down upon. I personally think it would be a great and unique look.

I lived near St. Louis,Mo. during the mid-70s at a town called Woodriver,Ill..Cool "Nosebleeders" we called them, they were everywhere.....most were fast!:yes:

I've also seen that 1st gen. in Missouri.The flag flames just were to bitchin' to see up close.I had a '63 Impala SS then ,but my friend Randy Blow,:yes: that's his last name, had a 70 Camaro RS w/LT-1 & '68 Chevelle Malibu w/SOHC BB to street race !!! Those days were a blast !:D
Sorry for the hijack ,memory lane you know...........aloha,Ric

The "east coast", tail in the air look is great for the two door models, but what about my idea for doing the same for my four door. No opinion is looked down upon. I personally think it would be a great and unique look.

Nothing personal, but I lived those days and not quite ready for that trend to resurface:no: I started lowering muscle cars in the late 1970's and like em that way today.

I love it also, that's when men were men and weren't afraid to drive a car that handled like a wet dish rag.

We just thought a wet dish rag was a good as it gets.

Since that time we have learned about wind resistance/wind drag. It has been proven that a car sitting lower will get better gas mileage and run faster. Just compare the fuel economy numbers of an SUV/truck to the mpg of a car (with the same displacement engine and similar weight). And look at NASCAR or NHRA cars. The air dams and skirts almost touch the ground. They do not want wind drag under the car. John Lingenfelter documented a sizeable difference in top speed numbers on one of his Corvettes by adding an air dam & skirting the sides of the car. He felt that the air hitting the front of the tires was enough to limit top speed obtainable.

Another consideration are the advancements in tires and suspensions. A lot of the factory suspensions were so flimsy that a straight axle was preferred and the upgrade raised the ride height. The rear was raised to match the front but also because there was no limit to the tire width you could add once the vehicle was higher than the wheel lip. Now we have better tires so you don't need as much tire to get traction. Now we have wheel tubs and the aftermarket has kits to move leafsprings in-board, narrowed differentials, & etc.

I like the lower look too, probably since I like to do corners fast.

hahaha....this thread made me laugh. Here's my 1st Nova, from the 70's. Fits in with these others here. L-88 hood, N-50's, flares, I really did like the header side pipes though......... The flared rear wheelwells had the car sitting somewhat level. This car had a 427-4 speed, 12 bolt and 4:56 gears. That pic was taken in the 70's somewhere near Langley Air Force base.

hahaha....this thread made me laugh. Here's my 1st Nova, from the 70's. Fits in with these others here. L-88 hood, N-50's, flares, I really did like the header side pipes though......... The flared rear wheelwells had the car sitting somewhat level. This car had a 427-4 speed, 12 bolt and 4:56 gears. That pic was taken in the 70's somewhere near Langley Air Force base.

OK, I just read that photobucket post so here goes trying to get the picture on here.
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/novapwr72/69Nova.jpg

Friend......

To a few of us............that's Sex-On-Wheels.


Got any more pics???

Thanks-
ktownkid

3rd gens make the best HIGH RIDERS:cool:

Keep them coming.

Friend......

To a few of us............that's Sex-On-Wheels.


Got any more pics???

Thanks-
ktownkid

Here's all I have on the puter. Some were before the "new" paint job. lol.
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/novapwr72/69NovaBurnout.jpg


http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/novapwr72/69NovaClutchchange.jpg

This is next to the Chesapeke Bay around Hampton, VA.
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/novapwr72/69NovaInVa.jpg


This is how it looked when I bought it. This is Sheppard AFB, Texas
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/novapwr72/NovainTexas.jpg

On I-80 headed to the Hot Rod Nationals in Berea, OH heheh...these are old Kodak 110 pics, remember those?
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu25/novapwr72/File0041.jpg

Totally Shagadelic baby

Had a few cars with that high-riser look - 35 or so years ago....also had hair on top of my head, wore bell-bottom pants (28" waist) and high heeled shoes. Today, I'd do all that first (impossible) before I jacked-up any of my cars!:D

Thats what I just bought. Not really my style tho. I think I'm just going to throw some drag wheels on it and drop it down a few inches. I like my wheels in the wells.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/groger1/nova/fullpassside.jpg

Here's one of my buddys Nova back in 1975.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1282/4427822/12257148/351432399.jpg

Thats what I just bought. Not really my style tho. I think I'm just going to throw some drag wheels on it and drop it down a few inches. I like my wheels in the wells.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/groger1/nova/fullpassside.jpg

k. Can you tell me why your username is almost identical to mine, AND you have a 70 Nova (albeit not the same color, BUT it was a 307!!)



....what's your name..

I noticed your username yesterday for the first time. I almost thought it was the same as mine just with 2 e's. I've been using this name for a while on a lot of other boards, mostly Mustang and Subaru sites.

Here's one of my buddys Nova back in 1975.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1282/4427822/12257148/351432399.jpg


Sweet!! Love them burgundy Novas!

Thats what I just bought. Not really my style tho. I think I'm just going to throw some drag wheels on it and drop it down a few inches. I like my wheels in the wells.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/groger1/nova/fullpassside.jpg

Love this one

To me, this only works on the 68-up cars (maybe 66-up for a-bodies). By the time this style was hip, I don't remember too many people were messing with the older stuff, since newer, higher powered cars could be had for cheap

I disagree, in my high school there was a guy who did his 64 El Camino sky high and it was one of the coolest cars around the school (we had a hemi Super Bee, an Alfa Romeo w/289 F**D and 5.50 gears, 440 6-pack Road Runner, 68 SS396 Chevelle that was a Car Craft project car, a couple vans that had healthy V-8's in them, a low 14 sec. 6 cyl/4 spd. 50 Chevy p.u., a low 13 sec. 69 GTO, etc.......) After he sold the El Camino he jacked up a beautiful 57 Nomad powered by a badazz Pontiac engine and it looked pretty cool. I am a 3rd gen owner, but I just don't care for the way they look up in the air, but I am looking at doing my 64 Chevelle wagon WAY up there; I have a set of 15x4 and 15x10 Cragar S/S wheels crying out for a home. Now I need some N50's or some of the old Goodyear Sports Car Specials, or Bridgestone Indy tires we ran back then--real wide and kinda low.

Here's one of my buddys Nova back in 1975.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1282/4427822/12257148/351432399.jpg

Thats one cool old pic.

so how exactly would i do the rear like these cars? what parts do i need and how hard is the labor?:confused:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3301444488_c85ae3173a.jpg?v=0

Shackle extenders will raise the back(cheap), but it doesn't help the handling at all!:no: Or you use more spring arch, but that will make for a poor ride too.

so how exactly would i do the rear like these cars? what parts do i need and how hard is the labor?:confused:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3301444488_c85ae3173a.jpg?v=0

If you want to do it right, the you need to get some Hi Jacker air shocks:yes:
http://www.gabriel.com/DisplayTab.aspx?tid=6
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa23/1BADNOV/Picture10-2.png

A definate YES to the hijackers.

And, NO, shackle extenders will not make it ride poorly. I've got them on my jacked up '70, drove it 3000 miles on Power Tour, it rode great.

Post pics when you get it done.

ND

how do they fit on those rear tires? are there axel extenders too?

Axle extenders????


Those reversed 14x10 or 15 x10 rims and fat 60 series tires give that effect, don't they?

Trick is to hike up the a****end enough to clear those big boys so tire rub and cutting isn't an issue.

15x10 with L60's or N50's :yes::yes:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/tobjo/DSC00617.jpg

15x10 with L60's or N50's :yes::yes:

hate to be the dumb one askin all the questions, but whats the difference between the L60 and the N50:confused:

N50 is a wider tire then the L60