Well, I don't know if I made a mistake or not, but I bought four ARE hopsters 17x7 with 4 bs. I had 225/50/17 F1 All Seasons mounted and balanced. The rear shouldn't be an issue, but the front is my concern.
I have the front clip up off the ground with no engine (hence no weight) and I mounted the wheels, but they look like they are going to contact the bumper. I fear the 225 is going to be too wide and should have gone with the 215?!?!?
I guess I went with the 225 because that is what I have on the 66, but they are 14/15's and a taller tire, so the over all width would be thinner.
Now, one hope I have is that as the clip gets weight, the A arms will rise and the tire will move up and out, but... will it be enough...
Anyone with a 2nd gen have a 17x7 4bs, w/225 ?!
(Someone please say they do) :)
-Brent
batman09
24th-October-2007, 10:59 PM
I have 205's up front and they barely fit.I hate to tell you but i'm pretty sure they are gonna rub.sorry...bm
undercvrSS
25th-October-2007, 11:58 AM
I run 17"x7" with a 4" BS, with 215 45's. The rub a little at full turn, but my car is lowered 2".
BTHOMAS67Wagon
25th-October-2007, 04:41 PM
Thanks guys for the initial responses. I guess I am not so concerned about the turning and rubbing issue as I plan on having air ride on the car to get it up and allow the wheel to have less chance of fender rubs.
My concern was more about the inside of the rim where it will clear or not on the spring cover and bumper.
If it's a 7 wide rim with 4 inch back spacing that I shouldn't have any rim clearance issues, but because the tire is a little wider on the outside and inside, that might cause some issues...
Maybe I'll take the front clip off the "dollie" and load a couple hundred pounds of bagged sand and concrete and see if the a arms move up/out enough to clear the spring cover/plate??
I could always remove the plate and try to cut it down a little, but don't know how much I can get out of it??
Thanks
Brent
undercvrSS
26th-October-2007, 12:08 PM
Thanks guys for the initial responses. I guess I am not so concerned about the turning and rubbing issue as I plan on having air ride on the car to get it up and allow the wheel to have less chance of fender rubs.
My concern was more about the inside of the rim where it will clear or not on the spring cover and bumper.
If it's a 7 wide rim with 4 inch back spacing that I shouldn't have any rim clearance issues, but because the tire is a little wider on the outside and inside, that might cause some issues...
Maybe I'll take the front clip off the "dollie" and load a couple hundred pounds of bagged sand and concrete and see if the a arms move up/out enough to clear the spring cover/plate??
I could always remove the plate and try to cut it down a little, but don't know how much I can get out of it??
Thanks
Brent
I can say that mine is really close to the spring cover/bumpstop. It does'nt hit, but it's close.
BTHOMAS67Wagon
26th-October-2007, 04:29 PM
I couldn't get enough weight safely on the front clip to bring the tires up, so I think I'll have to compress the springs (or take them out) and see how close I am and see if I can remove the spring cover/a arm bumper and see if it would give me an inch or two?!?!
I'm going to do some measuring, but does anyone know off hand what the dia of the stock spring compared to a "standard" air bag is?
It looks like Inflated is between 6 1/2 and 8 and I wonder what deflated would be?
(I'm wondering if I'll gain any extra space with the bags I intend to install??)
I'm so embarrassed to call Goodyear and ask them if I can return the 225 and get some 215's installed?? (I have a feelinf the answer will be no)
-Brent
Seattle_Mike
26th-October-2007, 04:35 PM
I'm sure you measured first...right? I keep thinking I should buy a WheelRite or whatever that tool is and rent it out...I could make a business out it as many posts as there are on here. You should be able to get the bag info from ART or one of the other vendors...they usually source the bags themselves from Goodyear or somebody I believe.
Good luck on the fitment.
BTHOMAS67Wagon
26th-October-2007, 09:30 PM
(measuring) I was too going to purchase one of those Percy's Wheel Tool, but just kept forgetting.
I knew I wanted and needed 17x7, 4bs and 0 off set and knew I could go 205/215, but when I ordered the tires for some reason I said 225 because I have 225 on my 66. Of Course they are not 17's but 14/15's with a taller sidewall, which I know narrows the tire, but I had a brain burp I guess. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
I think tonight or tomorrow, I'll go ahead and take the spring out and allow the a arms to swing up and out and see where I am at at that point and then dig the fenders (half stripped) out and see how the tires fit with a "fender mockup". I have no problems trimming the lip out of the fenders, if need be.
I took some initial measurements from the 66 at stock height (since the 67 front clip is only on a dollie) and I should be able to then move the arms to what woulod be a stock height and see what happens...
I guess getting $1000 worth of rims for $750 and $800 worth of tires for $475 and my luck just ran out, or should I say, my guessing ans assumptions made my luck go away. :)
-Brent Thomas
Ohio
BTHOMAS67Wagon
27th-October-2007, 11:27 AM
Last night I took out the springs, shocks, etc and compressed the clip to "stock height" (the a arm bumber at 23-24 inches off the ground). I was happy to know that my hopes were correct that as the a arm moves up and out I would gain clerance. After it was all said and done with, all the messurements and clerances were what they are on the 66 with 14/15 inch, 225/65's.
Basically, stock height measurements and clerances I messured are...
- 23 to 24 inches - from the a arm bumber to the ground
- 1 1/4 to 1 1/4 inches - from the bumper to the inside tire side wall.
- 10 1/2 inches - from the bumper to the top fender edge
- 17 1/2 inches - from the frontend frame rail to outside of the tire (backside)
Below are some pictures to show some of the bumper clerances.
What do you all think???
Everything looks GOOD and no issues look to be present aside from when the car will be dropped and the turning and at that point, the air ride will be inflated.