Lets see some Pro-tour 3rd gens!

Looking for some pics of Pro-touring 68-72 novas


Thanks!


Paul

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2478940
i dono if i would call it pro tour more like poor tour but i think it does whats required of it stops on a dime, handles awesome i can not squeel the new tires in a turn and with the new motor im puting in it should be in the 12 atleast these cars can bemade to handle on the cheap

Here is my street fighter

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/AndrewPetty/Andrew-Pettys-1969-Chevy-N.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2113000-2113999/2113867_38_full.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/69bigblock/millerscarshow1.jpg

I'm sure I have told you over at protouring.com but I freaking love the color of your car. The wheels look nice too.

These could be in Donk Magazine. :D

These could be in Donk Magazine. :D
Ive got a donk for you
On another note.

I hate green but totaly love that car/color . Its so in your face it awsome.

The world needs more pro-touring 396 Nova's, rock on! :cool:

Pro-touring72, Are you refering to my car? The car is yellow. I know it tends to look greenish in some pics,as all my friends bust on me for the color :D

Looking for some pics of Pro-touring 68-72 novas


Thanks!


Paul


are you building one?

Yea Im getting ready to start on one for a good friend of ours, He helped us make alot of parts for my car.

My dad painted this car 10+ years ago and the paint is still A+ so it just needs some upgrades.

18' wheels
13' or 14' brakes
Mini-tub
Roll bar
DSE subframe or speed 3 kit
DSE Q-link in the back
and some other sweet upgrades.

should be done by winter!

Paul

hey 69 big block what rims are those ?

are you building one?

Dude! You know better than to ask him!;)

He'll tell you he's just curious about it and the next thing you know there's Ol' Paul with a '70 BBC Nova all dumped and badass with a SMOY trophy in his hand!:p

John

HAHAHA,

He has been waiting sooo long for us to do something with his car, and I think thats why he wanted to help out so much on my car! lol payback time!

So John got it narrowed down yet!?!?!?

Paul


Dude! You know better than to ask him!;)

He'll tell you he's just curious about it and the next thing you know there's Ol' Paul with a '70 BBC Nova all dumped and badass with a SMOY trophy in his hand!:p

John

HAHAHA,

He has been waiting sooo long for us to do something with his car, and I think thats why he wanted to help out so much on my car! lol payback time!

So John got it narrowed down yet!?!?!?

Paul

HA!! Nice try Tough Guy! We're talking about the 3rd Gen you and Pops are gonna build for next years Columbus SMOY!!!

The 3rd Gen you're talking about isn't the Blue DSE Nova Test mule by any chance is it?

John

P.S. Getting closer............

lol, No this car wont be contending next year for SMOTY, we have learned that the little guy can't compete! Plus he wants something that he car just drive!

Nope, but it will have alot of DSE parts! as you know we like them crazy guys down there! lol

P.S, Good! we still have you in there if you decide to do it!

Paul


HA!! Nice try Tough Guy! We're talking about the 3rd Gen you and Pops are gonna build for next years Columbus SMOY!!!

The 3rd Gen you're talking about isn't the Blue DSE Nova Test mule by any chance is it?

John

P.S. Getting closer............

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/69bigblock/millerscarshow1.jpg

:eek:

Thats one of the nicest 3rd Gen's Ive EVER seen.

MORE PICS PLEASE!!! :D


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http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/car_087/bottom6.jpg

Dude! You know better than to ask him!;)

He'll tell you he's just curious about it and the next thing you know there's Ol' Paul with a '70 BBC Nova all dumped and badass with a SMOY trophy in his hand!:p

John

yeah i know..lol it the only thing i could think of to get some pics!!lol

Let's not go there now!!! lol

Paul

Here's a pic of my "donk" before all my re-assembly. Not really "pro-turing" yet but it is on its way.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f337/mricks123/IMG_5159_5.jpg

The 3rd Gen you're talking about isn't the Blue DSE Nova Test mule by any chance is it?

We need some PICS of this car, this is the first I have heard of it......

Here's a pic of my "donk" before all my re-assembly. Not really "pro-turing" yet but it is on its way.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f337/mricks123/IMG_5159_5.jpg

Nice Car! Just dump her a bit and she'll be looking GOOOOODD!!!

We need some PICS of this car, this is the first I have heard of it......

It acutally wasn't an "Official" test mule for them but I remember seeing it for sale and called the guy. Apparently he worked for DSE and they were using his car to test out some 3rd gen parts. It was painted Royal blue with DSE tubs and some other assorted goodies that I can't remember. Lemme see if I find it.......

John

Well the plan is now,

DSE Mini-Tub
DSE Q-Link
DSE Speed 2 or 3 kit
13' 12' brakes
17 and 18 Budnik's
Roll cage ( I allways wanted one in my car! lol)
DSE wiper motor
and some other goodies!

He just wants to do the upgrades, and leave the paint, its still A+ and my dad painted it in 93'

so shouldnt take to long to get it knocked out!

Paul

Here's a couple of photos of my touring project.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/dariopr/DSC03943.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/dariopr/DSC04063.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/69bigblock/millerscarshow1.jpg

sweet car! is that a yellow or shade of green? Some more pics and info on car plz!!! DOnt see too many with glued on roof covers....lol

The car color is citron yella, sometimes it shows up brite yellow or a little greenish depends on the light. Car has a 454 w/ 600hp
th350
12 bolt w/ 3.55
13" brakes front
12" brakes rear
17's billets
R&P unisteer

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/69bigblock/2004-2-1.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/69bigblock/nova2006-2.jpg

I've been thinking about starting a project soon, my question is do these cars really handle well?? I imagine after putting all that work into them they just putt to the car show... hehehehehe I want something that'll haul @**** on the curvy two-lane back roads, open track days, and auto-X. Can you guys give me any insight after building these nice cars?? thanks:chev:

auto-X. Can you guys give me any insight after building these nice cars?? thanks

What do you want to know?

HOW DO THEY HANDLE CORNERS??? Are they comparable to a new Camaro? Corvette? I'm just wondering if it would be a waste of time to try and rework the stock suspension, or if I would be better off to go go full tube frame, nascar style?? I don't want to put a bunch of money and time into something and come up short of my goals

HOW DO THEY HANDLE CORNERS??? Are they comparable to a new Camaro? Corvette? I'm just wondering if it would be a waste of time to try and rework the stock suspension, or if I would be better off to go go full tube frame, nascar style?? I don't want to put a bunch of money and time into something and come up short of my goals

Will they be comparable to a new Camaro or Corvette? Sure, with enough time and money you can make it handle like a go-kart!(Just lift the body and put it on a go-kart!)
Your first question should be "What do I want to do with the car?" Do you want to Auto-X it and run some Open Track days as you stated in your first post? If so, what percentage of the time that you will be driving the car will these events take place? In other words, will this car be dedicated to that or is it going to be a 10% Track/Auto-X 90% Street?
If you're going to set it up for Auto-X/Track mostly then a full tube chassis would be a good move. If your just going to run it mostly on the street and take it to a few events a year then I would look into tweaking the springs and shocks along with STICKY TIRES! Run with that and if you don't like the way it handles then you can start getting into relocating the upper arms, Taller spindles heavier duty sway bars, 3 link rear, etc. I think this would be the best bang for your buck, as you stated you wanted in your post!


John

BTW Andrew Petty has real world experience in this arena! When he suggests something? Listen!

I dont know how my car would do On the Auto-x track or Open track days All I know is with the Hotchkis springs Bilstein shocks and 1 1/8 sway bar It will take a corner 200% better than stock. I have not found the limits of my 255-45 rear tires yet and it is not overly harsh to drive. I was going to do the Guldstrand mod but I just dont feel I need it yet.

I think Mr Petty is running about the same springs and swaybar as me. He has been Auto-Xing his car and having a great time. Wish I had some events near me so I can kill some cones. I dont see the need for mini tubs and 335 tires unless you are doing some hardcore racing.

Thats what I wanted to hear, someones real life experience. I appreciate a response that doesn't quote the last sentence of my question and then ask a question. I explained what I wanted from the car. Performance. No fluff, just a drive like ya stole it everyday hotrod. trackdays, auto-X, and back road cruising. No power windows, ac, door locks, $10,000 paint jobs, no bling bling wheels, stupid loud stereo, or any of that extra stuff. Look stockish and run hard. I've had two 69' Novas, a 54 Dodge pick-up, 76' Luv (400 sbc), I'm tired of compromising on vehicles. The Luv was scary fast, but it was too small, the Novas were plenty roomy, but the door handles drug on hard corners. I've worked on several stock cars and a FED. Sorry if it sounds like I'm ranting and raving, I am. I can't find the info I want and I've looked everywhere. Anyway thanks for the time. Everyone on this site is pretty cool.
:beer:

I explained what I wanted from the car. Performance. No fluff, just a drive like ya stole it everyday hotrod. trackdays, auto-X, and back road cruising. No power windows, ac, door locks, $10,000 paint jobs, no bling bling wheels, stupid loud stereo, or any of that extra stuff. Look stockish and run hard.

I think my car fits that bill perfectly.

BTW Andrew Petty has real world experience in this arena! When he suggests something? Listen!

LOL thanks John. I'm gonna try and not get a big head now.

I'll try and help you out as best I can. If I miss or dont cover something you want to know just ask. First I wouldnt want to compare my car to a new vette(driven one and they are retarded awsome). The answere to your question is gonna depend on how far you take your car. And what route you go with it. My car is fairly simple but works really well for what it is.

A quick list of things done to my car:

-Hotchkis suspension TVS kit (with the hotchkis shocks)
-Energy suspensions on the whole car
-Front end rebuild kit
-16:1 ratio steering box
-Corbeau seats (probly one of my favorite things I did to my car)
-And a agressive alignment (this made one of the biggest differences)
-there are many other things done but they do not matter right now

With just these few things alone most people at the autocross cant believe what they see. But the biggest thing that will make the car work is the guy behind the wheel. I could go on for a hour about how I drive my car around the course, and I'm still learning everytime I'm at a event. I'm gonna have some in-car video from the next autocross on the 26th so I'll post that up and mabe it will help you get an idea.

But with all that said my car is good at a local level. If I were to go to a national tour event I get my but kicked all over the place.

Ok I gotta get back to work. I'll try and add more to this later.

Thats what I wanted to hear, someones real life experience. I appreciate a response that doesn't quote the last sentence of my question and then ask a question. I explained what I wanted from the car. Performance. No fluff, just a drive like ya stole it everyday hotrod. trackdays, auto-X, and back road cruising. No power windows, ac, door locks, $10,000 paint jobs, no bling bling wheels, stupid loud stereo, or any of that extra stuff. Look stockish and run hard. I've had two 69' Novas, a 54 Dodge pick-up, 76' Luv (400 sbc), I'm tired of compromising on vehicles. The Luv was scary fast, but it was too small, the Novas were plenty roomy, but the door handles drug on hard corners. I've worked on several stock cars and a FED. Sorry if it sounds like I'm ranting and raving, I am. I can't find the info I want and I've looked everywhere. Anyway thanks for the time. Everyone on this site is pretty cool.
:beer:


The reason I answered your question with a question is because you're not asking the right question. The car you just described in your last post can come in so many degrees and the variations are endless. This is why I said what I said. You need to narrow down what it is you want to do with the car. Do you want to take it to the ultimate? Full blown chassis repalcement with full race setup. It'll ride like crap on the street but on the track and auto-x you'll be dry humping the wheels. Street car that can perform on the track and auto-x? Again, how much time will it see both versus the street? For you to wrench as much performance out of your car and still strike the balance you want you need to ask yourself these questions first.
It sounds to me like you just want someone to say"Just throw a hotchkiss setup and it'll run like Andretti's car!" What I like and you like may be totally different! Why not try driving a car that has a particular setup that you think may work for you so that you can feel what it is you like and don't like about the car and go from their!

John

Andrew The Hotchkis shocks are Bilsteins Correct?



I also have urethane bushings all around. I forgot to add that to my last post

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0604phr_nova_14_z.jpg

Andrew The Hotchkis shocks are Bilsteins Correct?

Thats what I was told. They are Bilsteines that are valved for the hotchkis springs.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0604phr_nova_14_z.jpg

Thats the baddest shot of your car Mark. I have drooled over your car many times and thats gotta be my favorite shot of it.

Thanks for the input guys. Street driving (Daily driving or comfort cruising) are not on my list of priorities, at all. That's why I have an 07 GMC crew cab, leather heated seats, ac, cc, blah blah blah.... I like simple, easy to maintain, bad@****... Petty, I think your car is really nice and it works for you, where did you get the spoiler on the back? John, your project is simply incredible!! I think it is the only car that has a chance at dethroning Parsons blue 67... thanks

The rear spoiler is a 69 Camaro spoiler.

Thanks!!!

John

Thats the baddest shot of your car Mark. I have drooled over your car many times and thats gotta be my favorite shot of it.


Thanks Andrew. That car is overseas now.

Overseas!!??? Kinda stinks that we will never see the car again. I hope you got what you wanted for it.

Overseas!!??? Kinda stinks that we will never see the car again. I hope you got what you wanted for it.


Nahh, I don't miss it.

Nahh, I don't miss it.

WHAT???? YOU SOLD IT?????

Tie him down and 20 lashes!!!!:mad:

Mark, that car was badass!!! Do you have plans of building another?

John

It acutally wasn't an "Official" test mule for them but I remember seeing it for sale and called the guy. Apparently he worked for DSE and they were using his car to test out some 3rd gen parts. It was painted Royal blue with DSE tubs and some other assorted goodies that I can't remember. Lemme see if I find it.......

John

Any luck w/ that search? I'm anxious to ck it out...

Are we talking about the X1 nova?

It was never finished...

here is the rendering.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/bridgestone4life/Ulaszek_Nova_1024_copy-720x305.jpg



Paul

Think is was forsale awhile ago....

WHAT???? YOU SOLD IT?????

Tie him down and 20 lashes!!!!:mad:

Mark, that car was badass!!! Do you have plans of building another?

John

Yeah, I had my fun with it. I had it two years, that's a long time in car land, lol.

I've got a '66 Chevelle that I'm going to start really soon. I had the car before the Nova even came along, but I couldn't pass the Nova up.

Chevelle will be a much better build though. :D

Are we talking about the X1 nova?

It was never finished...

here is the rendering.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/bridgestone4life/Ulaszek_Nova_1024_copy-720x305.jpg



Paul

That's the one!

What ever happended with it?

John

Its for sale...
http://x1nova.com/

Its been for a long time, Not sure if it ever sold or not.

Paul


That's the one!

What ever happended with it?

John

That's the one!

What ever happended with it?

John

Doesn't look like anything has happened lately.

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15974&highlight=Nova

http://www.x1nova.com/Specs.html

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/tom69nova/deer006.jpg

so this is what i've been working on for the past 2 years i'm just about ready for paint just finishing up some last odds and ends i have more photos on photobucket.

http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/tom69nova/

Figured I post a couple in-car vidoes and some pictures from the autocross yesterday. I know there are a few diffrent threads on autocross but I just decided to post this stuff in here.

Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vsGa2-M6BI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qobfnj5NyY

Pictures:

http://www.theweisel.com/photography/2007.08.26/CIMG3802.JPG

http://www.theweisel.com/photography/2007.08.26/CIMG3818.JPG

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/69bigblock/millerscarshow1.jpg

This is the baddest a** nova I had ever seen. I dont know why, but I cannot take my eyes off of it. Hope you don't mind, but the pic is now on my desktop. Smoking, just plain Smokin!!!

it is a very nice car