mini tubbing

I received my DSE mini tubs the other day and today i started taking the car apart .I'm hoping to start cutting the stock tubs out tomorrow. Just wondering if anyone else has installed the DSE tubs and maybe offer up some pointers.Also if anyone is interested i can post pictures of my progress.

Ken

i'm thinking of getting a set myself... let us know how it goes

Those are way out of my price range! Some strips of 2 1/2" wide sheetmetal worked just fine for me. The DSE stuff is real pretty, but I could buy a lot of horsepower for that kind of money, and I'd rather go fast than look good.

bowtie0069 "I'd rather go fast than look good".

DIDO!

Why not look good while you are going fast? I am going to do the strips, unless I come into some money. How much are they?

And pix are always good...Post 'em up.

ugly but pretty fast.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa228/lowerthedynamite/100_0090.jpg

Yeah i would like to see some pics!

And pix are always good...Post 'em up.

The pix are still on my site under "My Nova"--they were posted a few times in the past. Or you could drag all your cars to Monrovia and Dale and I will do the work for you--for a nominal fee of course!

Why not look good while you are going fast? I am going to do the strips, unless I come into some money. How much are they?

And pix are always good...Post 'em up.


They go for 399.00 a pair. As bowtie0069 said their not cheap but i think they will save me a lot of time.And yes they do look good.

They go for 399.00 a pair

I thought they were more than that; we were going to do a story in Chevy High Performance using their entire kit, but they wanted almost full retail price PLUS the magazine coverage--Sorry, it doesn't work that way! We passed.

please post some pics of the progress. Can you keep the backseat in the car with a mini-tub?

Brandon

Can you keep the backseat in the car with a mini-tub?

It might take cutting a couple pieces of the wire seat frame and folding over the fabric to fit, depending on how wide the tubs are.

I thought they were more than that;

They are, the entire kit is 1,299.00 plus the fuel tanks range anywhere from 675.00-1,100.00.

The tubs by themselves are 399.00

They are, the entire kit is 1,299.00 plus the fuel tanks range anywhere from 675.00-1,100.00.

The tubs by themselves are 399.00

Well then scratch that off the list for now... Still wanna see pics of the process.

Brandon

Well then scratch that off the list for now... Still wanna see pics of the process.

Brandon

Sorry man, didn't meen to burst yer bubble. Ya might be able to find it cheaper. I just looked in my Classic Industries catalog real quick to get those prices.

Well eveything is striped from the car .Now all i need is a spot weld cutter
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub006.jpg

very nice ride... I did want to offer you should only cut one side out at a time. It helps keep the car solid

very nice ride... I did want to offer you should only cut one side out at a time. It helps keep the car solid

Thanks, I was thinking the same thing.Spent today cutting out the old tub and making room for the new one.I realized need to move the roll bar just a little
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub017.jpg

Looks like a great start....

Hey, that gas tank looks good too? Is it stock? Looks like you might have a special setup, electric pump?

Looks like a great start....

Hey, that gas tank looks good too? Is it stock? Looks like you might have a special setup, electric pump?

Thanks, The tank is stock but the sending unit has been modified so that i can run a 1/2 inch fuel line. also a bulk head fitting in the tank that i use for the return line .

finished up the cutting on one side of the car.Now to just weld up the frame and final fit the tub . Here is a picture of a tire and wheel combo i have a chance to buy cheap .The tire is a 325-15
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub023.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub021.jpg

Looks excellent man.

That looks awesome!!! What size is the wheel/tire combo and back spacing, also is the rear end the stock width?

Denis

Thanks guys
Denny the wheels are weld rodlites 15x10 with a 5 inch bs. And the tires are m/t et street 325/50s.I'm not sure i'll go with those wheels i like the pro stars better.But i like the fit of the tire.And the rear would need to be shortened but i think i'll be going with a 9inch .
Thanks again.

Heres a couple pictures from this past weekend.Tub just about ready to be welded in.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub029.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub032.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub031.jpg

I really like how that is fitting up. Looking good. I have to do some repair around the origional shock mounts on my cars body, but looking at how that is turning out I may go with the mini tub and shock relocation to a point inboard of the frame rails. Got any pictures of how it is fitting up in the rear seat area? :beer:

I really like how that is fitting up. Looking good. I have to do some repair around the origional shock mounts on my cars body, but looking at how that is turning out I may go with the mini tub and shock relocation to a point inboard of the frame rails. Got any pictures of how it is fitting up in the rear seat area? :beer:

Well its not the best picture but its the only one i have.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub030.jpg

That is looking real good! If you can, would you post some more pics?

Denis

Very nice work man! we need alot more pics of that work.:cool: Are you narrowing the rearend as well?

Well i finished notching the frame. And welded in one tub today here is a couple pics
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub043.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub038.jpg

Great pics! nice job too:DMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM....ET Streets:cool:

Well i finally got around to finishing up the trunk.Its really hard to tell it was tubbed.Now for a new rear end and suspension
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/minitub054.jpg

Dude you've done some excellent work on that car! Great job!:cool:

So when you coming over to put mini tubs in my car? :D

Great job. You almost have me convinced that I need to put them in my car while I have it as a hollow shell still. Only thing I hate about that idea is my inner wheel wells still look good!

So when you coming over to put mini tubs in my car? :D

Great job. You almost have me convinced that I need to put them in my car while I have it as a hollow shell still. Only thing I hate about that idea is my inner wheel wells still look good!

Thanks guys
Actually it a fairly easy job just time consuming.I know what you mean about cutting out perfectly good wheel wells.I looked at it for a couple days and wondered if i really wanted to do this but it worked out ok.I will say the DSE tubs fit and look great .Thanks again

Ken

Well i finally picked up the tires and wheels that i'm going to use.Now i just have to measure for a new rearend.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/newtires008.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/newtires006-1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/newtires004.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/newtires002-1.jpg

they used mini tubs in this nova. Actually i think they used the whole DSE catalogue from the look of it! The tubs look good though.

http://www.radrides.com/proj.htm

hardcore,

That is looking real nice! keep up the good work and don't forget the pics!!!:D

Denis

hardcore,

That is looking real nice! keep up the good work and don't forget the pics!!!:D

Denis

Thanks Denny
I really appreciate it.

Ken

Love the Avitar, watched that last week!

Nice Trunk. :cool:

Tommy :)

Several questions...
1.What trunk paint did you use?
2. Did you use the offset shakles?
2A. If you did, did you have to do anything to the front spring mounts
3. Did you narrow your rear end?
3A.If so how much?
4.Where did you find your battery box?

Looks great Hardcore. Nice Job!

Nice Trunk. :cool:

Tommy :)

Looks great Hardcore. Nice Job!

Thanks guys

Several questions...
1.What trunk paint did you use?
2. Did you use the offset shakles?
2A. If you did, did you have to do anything to the front spring mounts
3. Did you narrow your rear end?
3A.If so how much?
4.Where did you find your battery box?


1.aqua and black splater paint .i picked it up at Murrays auto
2.No. I think i'll be using coil over shocks and springs
3.i'm building up a new rear and it will be a bid shorter then stock
4.Its a taylor box bought thru Summit

Hope this helps

It looks great
what frame connectors are you using?

It looks great
what frame connectors are you using?

The frame connectors are from Detroit speed & engineering

NICE WORK!!!! Clean!!!!!
Im working on mine as we speak!!
http://www.stevesnovasite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77990&page=3

Thanks
great car ya got

:) Very Nice work Quality job all the way. you have earned yourself a few :beer: What size rims are those

:) Very Nice work Quality job all the way. you have earned yourself a few :beer: What size rims are those

Thanks
the rims are 15x10 4inch bs

Great job! You mentioned a new suspension was in the works. Does this include relocating your leafs and narrowing the gas tank?

Anyone running a 15X10 wit 7.5" B/S?

Great job! You mentioned a new suspension was in the works. Does this include relocating your leafs and narrowing the gas tank?
Thanks
I'm not sure yet if i'm going to keep the leafs and offset them or just go with ladder bars.

Hardcore I couldn't tell if you still had a back seat. If you did, does it look like the seat will have to be altered very much to install now that the wider tubs are in ?

Hardcore I couldn't tell if you still had a back seat. If you did, does it look like the seat will have to be altered very much to install now that the wider tubs are in ?

Here is a picture of the rear seat after the mini tub. all you have to do is cut out a few pieces of wire from the seat frame. Real simple took less then an hour to do.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/finished.jpg

That's good news about the rear seats. Please keep with updates as you progress. I couldn't decide whether I should mini tub my 71 or not,
but after seeing how clean an installation you've done I've decided to do the same. Great job, I look forward to more progression pictures!

Hardcore,

Who is the manufacture of the roll barand the rear seat saver bars?

Denis

Hardcore,

Who is the manufacture of the roll barand the rear seat saver bars?

Denis

Hey Denis
I had the bars bent up by a local race shop.

Ken

Anyone running a 15X10 wit 7.5" B/S?

I have a set ordered, hoping to run them without narrowing the rear end housing but im mini tubbing the car with DSE mini tubs and I am offsetting the springs....in the rear only I hope!

Keep us posted! That is exactly what I want to do!!!:yes: Post lots of pics!:yes:

I just got a set of chrome Rally's from wheel vintiques in 15x10 with 7" backspace for a 67 Camaro convertible I'm mini-tubbing. They fit perfect with a M/T 28x12.5 tire with a little room to spare even. The last Nova I did if I remember was 1/2 less backspacing though. I use a Wheel Rite tool to measure them up and it works great for about $80 bucks if you look around. It's kindof a neat look IMO because you don't at first realize how wide the tire is because the wheels aren't deep dish.

any pics?????:D

It's kindof a neat look IMO because you don't at first realize how wide the tire is because the wheels aren't deep dish.


That it exactly! And :yes: pics please!

Finally got around to ordering the new rearend.I went with one of Mosers Dana 60s a little bit of over kill for the power i'm running but it does look good.
I still have to weld on the the brackets for the suspension. Here's a couple of pictures .Making sure my measurements were right.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/dana60002.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/dana60006.jpg

that looks great!!!:yes:

Excellent!:yes:

sweeet! I ordered that same back brace for my rear diff too. Looks great!

That looks awesome. Atleast you know you shouldn't break it. Did you end up getting it from Frank at GPSuperstore??

That looks awesome. Atleast you know you shouldn't break it. Did you end up getting it from Frank at GPSuperstore??

No i just ordered right from Moser

I like the wheels and tires, just mounted my hoosier 28x13.5 Quick Time Pro's. Notched the frame and mini tubbed it similar to yours, and theres plenty of room to fit the tire. I was afraid to get the 29 inch by 13.5 because i was afraid of it being too wide, if im not mistaken the section width is bigger on the 29 inch tire by about an inch

Overkill? What you talkin' about Willis?

[QUOTE=hardcore;830632]Finally got around to ordering the new rearend.I went with one of Mosers Dana 60s a little bit of over kill for the power i'm running but it does look good.

I like the wheels and tires, just mounted my hoosier 28x13.5 Quick Time Pro's. Notched the frame and mini tubbed it similar to yours, and theres plenty of room to fit the tire. I was afraid to get the 29 inch by 13.5 because i was afraid of it being too wide, if im not mistaken the section width is bigger on the 29 inch tire by about an inch

I think there is a half inch difference between the two.I have about a half inch clearance on the inside and outside of each tire so it is a little tight.I'm expecting a little bit of rubbing going around corners hopefully not to bad.Post up some pictures of your car i'd like to it.

If you dont mind me asking what was the measurements on the rear end and backspace on the wheels?

If you dont mind me asking what was the measurements on the rear end and backspace on the wheels?

yeah, I second that. It would save me some noggin scratchin:D

If you dont mind me asking what was the measurements on the rear end and backspace on the wheels?

From drum to drum its 53 inches .And i have a ten inch wheel with a four inch back space. Hope this helps

Its been almost a year but i finally got the car off the jack stands.All thats left to do is get the driveshaft shortened .Hopefully get it out this weekend
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/done002.jpg

looks awesome nice work :yes:

That's great! Awesome job!!! I looked at all of your pics. I was hoping for some more of the frame rail areas. Do you have any shots of that? And did you narrow the frame rails?

Looks Great!
Denis

Great Job!!! And Great Pics!!!

Thanks guys
Denis here's a picture of the frame after notching. Its not that great but gives you the idea
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/done003.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/framenotch007.jpg

I got the driveshaft back yesterday and fabed up the exhaust today. Then went for a shake down run.Everything seemed great i guess i can say i'm officially done with all the changes.Thanks to everybody for the kind words during the project.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/novasmaidenvoyage2008010.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hardcore427/mini%20tub/novasmaidenvoyage2008006.jpg

Now that is bad *** my friend!!!
:thumbsup::yes::thumbsup::yes::thumbsup:

Came out really nice :yes: all ya need now is a vinyl top :D

Looks awesome bro!!! :eek:

all i can say is awesome again :cool:

Thanks again guys.

That is one SWEET ***** ride. :yes: Detroit huh.....may have to come "borrow" it for a ride. :eek:

That is one bad azz ride!

What front suspension you runnin on that thing, I like that stance

What front suspension you runnin on that thing, I like that stance

every thing is stock except for the springs and those are moroso .Part number 47140 with one coil cut off.

Ken

nice! Do you think there is any way the keep the stock rear end in there using that detroit kit?

Ryan

You better keep that thing in the garage! - Thats one of the nicest novas ive seen!

You better keep that thing in the garage! - Thats one of the nicest novas ive seen!

Ummmm, okay welcome to Steves...not sure what to say about you puttin' yer w***** on a car...Man I've loved some cars but not that much!:D

You better keep that thing in the garage!- Thats one of the nicest novas ive seen!

Woh.
I don't believe I'dve said that.

You better keep that thing in the garage!- Thats one of the nicest novas ive seen!


Thanks, I think.:D

Awesome work man, Excellent info

What width did you go with for the rear?

What width did you go with for the rear?

The width i went with is 53 inches

how does it ride with the ladder bars and coil overs on the street I am doing the same set up but I am told that the ladder bars are not good on the street I am going to have mostly a street car but will go to the track sometimes thanks for your help

how does it ride with the ladder bars and coil overs on the street I am doing the same set up but I am told that the ladder bars are not good on the street I am going to have mostly a street car but will go to the track sometimes thanks for your help

Too be honest it doesn't ride as nice as when it had leafs.And it doesn't take corners as well. But nowhere as bad as i thought it would be.Its not my daily driver and i may go to one or two cruise nights a week so the ride isn't that big a deal. Hope this helps

Man, your car is just awesome!!!!:cool::)

Too be honest it doesn't ride as nice as when it had leafs.And it doesn't take corners as well. But nowhere as bad as i thought it would be.Its not my daily driver and i may go to one or two cruise nights a week so the ride isn't that big a deal. Hope this helps

Hardcore; very very nice, were you at Lapeer this summer I thought I saw you there in September or October, if so how did you do, I had the Black primered 72 out getting my suspension finally set up right, here is a shot from Milan at teh No ET Nationals Nov. 1st. I left easy not knowing what to expect now I wish I had left harder LOL

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f276/gearjammerexpress/_DOC6166-1.jpg

Phil

Hardcore; very very nice, were you at Lapeer this summer I thought I saw you there in September or October, if so how did you do, I had the Black primered 72 out getting my suspension finally set up right, here is a shot from Milan at teh No ET Nationals Nov. 1st. I left easy not knowing what to expect now I wish I had left harder LOL

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f276/gearjammerexpress/_DOC6166-1.jpg

Phil

Hey Phil
No it wasn't me at Lapeer. I haven't been to the track this year .Lost access to a trailer so i'm looking at buying one this spring.I only hope mine leaves as hard as yours.
Thanks
Ken

Hey Phil
No it wasn't me at Lapeer. I haven't been to the track this year .Lost access to a trailer so i'm looking at buying one this spring.I only hope mine leaves as hard as yours.
Thanks
Ken

Thanks Ken, but mines a pig LOL, well this year anyway and besides our cars are street cars :turn: I'm sure we will see each other next spring somewhere

Phil

Well guys, I just love both of those cars. :yes:

Well guys, I just love both of those cars. :yes:
Denny, Im sure I speak for Ken when I say thank you very much.

Phil