rear end coil over conversion kit

does this seem to be a complete kit cause it seems pretty cheap what ese would you need to convert the read to coil overs?
http://www.globalwest.net/1968-74%20Nova%20Shocks%20and%20Coil-over%20kits.htm

i cant find a more complete than this so is this it it seems its about 200 dollars cheaper than everywhere else?

but.... wouldn't you still have to put a new cross member in the back and something on the axle? just wondering because i am interested in doing this on mine....

you know after writing this whole thing above i feel dumb asking that.... doesn't it just mount in the factory location? ha

why does it say front to coil over the front is already coil isnt it

i dont think so correct me if i'm worng but i thought the coil over eliminated the leaf springs?

coil over does eliminate the leaf spring. but reread that ad it says front coilover conversion and the front shouldnt have leafs. either they dont know what they are selling or it is a typo

no its not a typo all the kits say that i think but not sure but its because the coil over is adjustable..?? am i right? adn my whole reason for this is couldnt you buy the rear kit and buy wheel tubs from jegs for i think eighty dollars and you have a mini tub kit for $500 dollars instead of $1000?

possibly. i have a question thrown out on the board right now about rear coils you might want to see the responses to that cause it would be even cheaper.
i would wait till some more suspension knowledgeable people answer though cause im not sure

does anyone know if i'm correct is that all i need for a mini tub is the read coilovers (which eliminates the leaf sprinds and you already have to relocate the shocks so my as well correct?) then the wheel hubs which will call for some whelding and cutting? is that it?

It's a little confusing to read that--those are FRONT coilover kits shown, and the numbers listed are QA-1 shock numbers. I don't see any REAR coilover kits anywhere.

ok what about this kit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/QA1-Precision-DR4000K-Pro-Coil-Over-Conversion_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42609QQihZ01 1QQitemZ320110849462
and do i have the right idea about this minitub thing here are the wheel wells i was looking at or are these too big for a nova
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/KeywordSearchCmd?storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1&N=0&Ntt=550-40525&Ntk=all&Nty=1&D=550-40525&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchall&Dx=mode%2Bmatchall&searchTerm=550-40525&x=21&y=14

Like Bowtie said the first part you listed allows you to remove your front springs and install shocks with springs that are adjustable in front. The next item listed allows you to remove your rear leaf springs and install rear shocks with springs to hold the car up but you have to do a sway bar or something to keep the raerend centered. The 3rd item is a full wheel tub most people would use with a rear frame replacement so you could run a real wide tire.

is the rear "frame"(I use that term loosely) of the Nova strong enough to allow you to bolt in a set of coil over shocks and then just remove the leaf springs without doing a bunch of re-engineering? (ya I know you need a panard bar or some other way to keep the rear diff centered under the car) I would think the stress a leaf spring system would put on the shell would be way different then the stress a coil over system would put on the same shell.

OK if you remove the leafs you will need a ladder bar or 4 link or 3 link or something to locate the rear end. by that I meen that the leafs are what hold the rear in place. by swaping the leafs for a coil over shock set up is cool but what are ya going to use to hold the rear in place?

OK if you remove the leafs you will need a ladder bar or 4 link or 3 link or something to locate the rear end. by that I meen that the leafs are what hold the rear in place. by swaping the leafs for a coil over shock set up is cool but what are ya going to use to hold the rear in place?

+1, you guys are kinda missing out on a few things here...

Your current leaf springs keep the rear end centered from side to side, and also keeps the rear from moving front to back and twisting. On top of that, the leafs allow the rear end to move up and down over dips/bumps...

By replacing the leaf springs with coil-overs you'll have to do quite a bit of re-engineering...there's no way around it. Why? Because the coil-overs won't do anything to keep the rear end from swaying side to side, front to back, or twisting.

You'll need to weld on new brackets to the rear end so the coil-overs have a place to mount. You'll also have to well in an upper cross member so the top portion of the coil-overs have a solid place to mount.

You'll need some sort on panhard bar to keep the rear end from moving from side to side while cornering.

You'll need a 4-link setup, or something of similar nature, to keep the rear end from twisting under torque, and also from moving frontward/rearward.

There really is no "cheap" coil-over conversion kit for the rear...there is also NO WAY around having to do some fabrication and welding.

These very reasons are who SO many people are using Cal-tracs with their stock leaf springs, or relocating their leafs inward slightly...it's cheaper and easier to do.

Like Bowtie said the first part you listed allows you to remove your front springs and install shocks with springs that are adjustable in front. The next item listed allows you to remove your rear leaf springs and install rear shocks with springs to hold the car up but you have to do a sway bar or something to keep the raerend centered. The 3rd item is a full wheel tub most people would use with a rear frame replacement so you could run a real wide tire.
is there a wheel well that fits the 3rd gens that doesnt require to move the frame i'm only looking to fit about a 295 maybe low 300's or the largest you can fit without moving the frame.

ABOUT THE BIGGEST is going to be a 275/60/15 with out air shocks and a very 1970's look. Some folks are stuffing 16 and 17 inch wheels X 9 with some larger than 275

if your using 15x8 inch wheels with 4.5bs you can fit 295/50-15's but you will have to roll the lip or notch the lip and have a tight suspention, i used poloyurathene bushings, 6 leafs per side re-arched, top of tire was even with bottom of lip, also may have to use a 1/4" wheel spacer on one side to be even. use small body shocks. that set up worked good for years, just dont overload with cargo. ;)

is there a wheel well that fits the 3rd gens that doesnt require to move the frame i'm only looking to fit about a 295 maybe low 300's or the largest you can fit without moving the frame.

If you look at the pix from how we did the mini-tub on my car, you'll notice the frame rails are un-touched. There is about 14" at the narrowest point, so if your tires sidewall is less than that it should just be a matter of splitting your stock tub and adding a filler strip to make it wider. Bring it to Monrovia and we can take of it for you. You don't need no stinking coilovers!