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: VIN on a crate motor

15th-February-2007, 11:47 PM
Do crate motors have vins, and date codes stamped on the block??

16th-February-2007, 12:00 AM
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16th-February-2007, 12:03 AM
they have identification numbers but no vins......vins are for vehicles not

16th-February-2007, 12:26 AM
I just assumed that it should have nothing on the pad does have some stuff tho.
VIN or ID(?):14 191824 vol1ocma
Date Code: A84
Casting Number:3970010
Head Casting Numbers:33417369

16th-February-2007, 09:25 AM
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Marv D
16th-February-2007, 10:34 AM
Best I can do for ya. Really have some ??? about that number and who's crate motor. But here goes...

Jan 8 1974
This fits as the 3970010 casting number and was first used as a 327 in 68, then as 350 from 69 to 79

The "V" indicate the engine was originally assembeled at the Flint MI engine assembly plant.

In 1974 (from date code) the CMA suffix was used for A,B,F and X body. Typically assembeled as a 2bolt main

If you are researching a car that is supposed to be "matching numbers" then keep in mind that the engine date must precede the car build date, otherwise something is amiss.

Here's a 'normal' example of the prefix/code/suffix
Engine ID Code Example: V0107CLJ -
(V = Plant, 01 = January, 07 = 7th Day, CLJ = Engine Suffix Code)

Another example: T0830CTY - (T = Tonawanda, 08 = August, 30 = 30th day, CTY = 1970 396 Camaro, 375 hp, 11.0:1, TH400)

Code Engine Plant
F Flint (Motor)
S Saginaw Service
H Hydramatic
T Tonawanda
K St. Catherines, Ontario
V Flint (Engine) [what's the difference in 'engine' and 'motor',, don't have a clue]
M GM of Mexico

Just as a FYI
CODE CE was used from 1968 to the end of the small block production. It represents any CID and is used to indicate a Warranty Engine.
VF292800 - is an example of a over the counter crate engine. "2800" is the last 4 digits of the GM part # for the crate engine assembly. The final digit could be a year code.
Another example: A Targetmaster engine (p/n 14009800) built in 1985 could have a code stamped as follows:
A0198005 (A = january, 01, 9800 = pn, 5 = 1985).

The heads,,, 3417369 is a 1990 and up Hecho en Mexico crate motor head for 350's, 76cc

Sooooo, Sounds like you have the typical 'crate motor' from Jasper Engine service or one of the others that supply 'crate motors' to parts houses and shops. Not a GM/TargetMaster crate motor.

16th-February-2007, 11:16 AM
OK Thanks, Could you get me the specs for the jasper crate motors(HP,torque,price). I can get this motor and th350 tranny for $500 it this a good deal.

Marv D
16th-February-2007, 11:25 AM
OK Thanks, Could you get me the specs for the jasper crate motors(HP,torque,price). I can get this motor and th350 tranny for $500 it this a good deal.

I would have no guess where that info could be found.

$500 doesn't buy much motor these days. A good price if you can hear the thing run. If it comes out of a wrecked car, chances are it was running to have been wrecked. Otherwise get a guarentee in writing that it is in fair operating condition.

16th-February-2007, 11:34 AM
those heads also came on the goodwrech crate engines.. mine has the same block code and head casting numbers.. and i know the guy bought it from goodwrench in 95.. so they must use older core blocks and not new ones... ??

edit: btw i paid 150$ for it.. lol.. hell of a deal for a perfectly running engine.. :D

17th-February-2007, 12:23 AM
Most GM crate engines will only have the part numbers on the componets used to build them stamp on the parts. They will not have other codes stamp in them. If you bought a turnkey engine from from an engine shop, they may have used a recondition block which would have stampings on it from the vehicle it was originally installed in.