Photo's of SS/Rally Cowl Tags

[jade76]

Decided to start this thread see if we can come to a conclusion on production differences from the different plants and availabilty options since most build sheets are long gone and it's unclear what makes a true SS/Rally other than the grilles and emblems. If you have the build sheet and can scan it or take a photo, post it too.

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I'll take a picture of mine tonight and post it on my car domain site. I'm sure my SS also has the Z26 code stamped on the trim tag. I do remember the assembly plant code is "K" which is for Kansas City.

[jade76]

Here's my tags.

76 SS:
http://www.gen4novas.com/gallery2/pictures/Ad_1_13.jpg
Decodes: 76 Chevy Nova 2 door, Built in Willow Run, MI
Interior: Dark Firethorn Vinyl Bench, Firethorn Interior, Firethorn Body
Built: 2nd week of May, (1. R. 1. 051 still undecoded)
78 Rally:
http://www.gen4novas.com/gallery2/pictures/Ad_38_14.jpg
78 Chevy Nova Custom 2 door, built in Tarrytown, NY
Interior: 74N = Carmine vinyl bench or buckets, A51 = Bucket Seats, 77 = Carmine Interior, 77 = Carmine Metallic Body
04B = Built 2nd week of April
621010 = unsure, 74 = unsure, Z2 = Abbreviated Z26 option
Also has 13 stamped beside the GM script, not sure what this means.

[==sYc==>]

621010 = unsure, 74 = unsure, Z2 = Abbreviated Z26 option
Also has 13 stamped beside the GM script, not sure what this means.
So just because there is a Z2 you are assuming it's means Z26 for the Rally option? You are grasping at straws.

[jade76]

==sYc==> Quote:
Originally Posted by jade76
621010 = unsure, 74 = unsure, Z2 = Abbreviated Z26 option
Also has 13 stamped beside the GM script, not sure what this means.

So just because there is a Z2 you are assuming it's means Z26 for the Rally option? You are grasping at straws.
Yesterday 05:24 PM


If you have something to disprove me, then by all means do it! I can and will admit that I'm wrong if you can put something in front of me that says otherwise. My source can be wrong, and if so, I need something to verify that, and that's the purpose of this thread.
I don't make assumptions, I take info that has been researched and put it to use, and yes occasionally I, or my source, may be wrong or misinterpret something. Some may be good, some bad. The book my friend has to decifer the option codes was printed in late 70's from the GM plant, is it wrong too because you said so?

Maybe you should make some contributions to the research rather than pointing fingers! Prove me wrong with something I don't already know or have available and I'll shake your hand, beyond that it's nothing more than talk!

[==sYc==>]

The book my friend has to decifer the option codes was printed in late 70's from the GM plant, is it wrong too because you said so?
So let's see this book. Post a pic of the page that makes this claim. Right now all you've given us is "My friend read it in a book but I don't know what book".

Yeah, that looks like real proof to me.

[jade76]

==sYc==> Quote:
So let's see this book. Post a pic of the page that makes this claim. Right now all you've given us is "My friend read it in a book but I don't know what book".
Yeah, that looks like real proof to me.

I can tell you it's a Chevy Reference Manual, and there's several of them, so I'm not sure which one exactly. If I had the page scanned to post, it would already be done. But I don't have it in front of me, so in the meantime if you're done pointing fingers and making accusations, how about making a contribution to this thread? Maybe then we can come to some real conclusions what all these extra codes mean!

[lior_baruch]

The Nova Rally is the PRO-Z26 option, which marked on the cowl tag as Z2:

Only 6,901 in 1977, 6,903 in 1978 and 2,299 for 1979.

What I don't know, is what's the different between the Nova (XX = Nova) and the Nova Custom (XY = Nova Custom).

1979 Nova Rally - RPO Z26

Model Availability
Standard Nova hatchback - 1X17
Standard Nova coupe - 1X27
Custom Nova coupe - 1Y27

Power Train Availability
250 L6 1V L22
305 V8 2V LG3
350 V8 4V LM1

Equipment (used in addition to or in place of standard equipment)
Exterior
"Nova Rally" emblem, multi-colored, in center of grille and on front fenders (delete "Nova" or "Nova Custom" from front fender side)
Triple-band striping on lower body and over wheel openings - available in 5 colors: gold, orange, red, black and white
Triple-band striping on rear end panel


Chassis
Rally wheels 14x6 painted to match body color (except with gold striping where wheels are painted to match stripe color), with bright center hub, lug nuts and trim ring


A pic of my cowl tag:

http://classiccar.co.il/nova/cowl.jpg

A pic of my Nova with the original Rally wheels and front grill emblem, but without the stripes, since it's been painted about 10 years ago:

http://www.classiccar.co.il/nova/IMG_5545.jpg

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Okay I lied. I don't have the Z26 option stamped on my trim tag. I didn't get the pic of the trim tag yet. I have to clean it up alittle or you won't be able to see it.

On another note, SYC, I think you should tone it down alittle, we are all here to help each other. If you want to bash, I'm sure there are other sites you can join to do so. ;)

[Green Dragon]

hmm... very interesting, as I have NEVER heard of, or seen any reference to the SS option ( or Rally, of course ) being decoded on the cowl tag .

will get pics of mine when I can, also I have a pile or cowl tags we've saved off parts cars,etc over the years, will see if I can get those scanned as well.

Noting Tony's 76 - that one is 'wierd' to me, I can't recall ever seeing a last line like that - with the ' . ' = dots between the entires, strange.

I've heard the last line numbers are just some sort of job sequence ( not body sequence numbers, but more to do with what shift / worker(s) at palnt,etc - sort of like the 'inspection marks' for the cowl tag, and vary car to car.

would be great to get more info collected, so we can 'cath up ' to the older cars - that's how it all starts is someone starts getting curious and eventually we'll figure something out .

~ AL

[jade76]

Green Dragon Quoted:

hmm... very interesting, as I have NEVER heard of, or seen any reference to the SS option ( or Rally, of course ) being decoded on the cowl tag .
will get pics of mine when I can, also I have a pile or cowl tags we've saved off parts cars,etc over the years, will see if I can get those scanned as well.
Noting Tony's 76 - that one is 'wierd' to me, I can't recall ever seeing a last line like that - with the ' . ' = dots between the entires, strange.
I've heard the last line numbers are just some sort of job sequence ( not body sequence numbers, but more to do with what shift / worker(s) at palnt,etc - sort of like the 'inspection marks' for the cowl tag, and vary car to car.
would be great to get more info collected, so we can 'cath up ' to the older cars - that's how it all starts is someone starts getting curious and eventually we'll figure something out .
~ AL

Would be great to see all those tags you have. For the purpose of this matter don't even need to be SS/Rally since we really need to compare all versions to come to any real conclusions.

The Z2 on Lior's 79 Rally and my 78 Rally may mean something else, not sure yet since we'll need to see more Rally's and whether they have that or not. My Rally did have original 4 speed and was kind of thinking that's what the 74 may stand for, don't know yet on that either. I did notice both Lior's and my Rally were produced in Tarrytown, NY and both have the Custom "XY" code, and both have a 4th Line with double digit number and Z2, and looks like same "13" stamped below the mounting hole.

My SS had no indication other than fenders and tail panel not having emblem holes and the fact my VIN decodes it as having a 350 in it, which if I remember correctly was the only engine available in an SS.

[==sYc==>]

My SS had no indication other than fenders and tail panel not having emblem holes and the fact my VIN decodes it as having a 350 in it, which if I remember correctly was the only engine available in an SS.
Nope. All engines were available in the SS after 1972. That includes the 250 straight 6.

[Green Dragon]

[QUOTE=jade76]Would be great to see all those tags you have. For the purpose of this matter don't even need to be SS/Rally since we really need to compare all versions to come to any real conclusions.

The Z2 on Lior's 79 Rally and my 78 Rally may mean something else, not sure yet since we'll need to see more Rally's and whether they have that or not. My Rally did have original 4 speed and was kind of thinking that's what the 74 may stand for, don't know yet on that either. I did notice both Lior's and my Rally were produced in Tarrytown, NY and both have the Custom "XY" code, and both have a 4th Line with double digit number and Z2, and looks like same "13" stamped below the mounting hole.

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Agree on the 'normal' tags, need a sample of anything, so as to see what varies,etc. will do what I can, but be patient, lol .

I think the '74' and Z2 on your tag is significant to somthing - might be the SS/ Rally option ... the numbers above the 'Z2' are ramdom 'in plant sequence' numers, which might mean something, but has puzzled tag decoders for years. not sure about the 13.

I do have a build sheet for a 77 built in tarrytown, so will post that with cowl tag info, might help ( it's not a Rally, however ).

interesting to see what turns up as I'm a numbers geek from way back ( get that from my dad and his Chevelles, numbers matching everything down to date codes on the hose clamps, etc..... )

~ AL

ps: here's a semi-visible pic of the cowl tag on my Medalist, note the '53' paint code, that my local Chevy dealer claims does not exist. ( USA Gold, 76 Medalist ONLY ) .

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/sailoral/medallistcowltag.jpg

[78Novatx]

I have two rally nova's one is a 1978 and one is a 1977 neither have the
z2 stamped the 1978 I am the second owner and the 1977 I am the fourth
owner. I will try to post the pictures. The equipment differences is the 77 has rear quarter windows that open the 78 does not have this option other than that the cars are the same. I looked for build sheets none to be found did find a Avon book from 1979.
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[reo78rally]

How funny is that? I was takin the seats out of my new red one, and found an old PEZ dispenser, how cool is that?
What tail lights do your Rally's have? 78Novatx?

Did they stop putting build sheets under the seat at some point?
I was sure I would find one in this red Rally, no interior work done on it at all.
Same seats, just seat covers. If they stopped, what year was it?
Are there any other places other than under the seat they would have put them?

[78Novatx]

Both of my rallys have the standard tailights. I think they call them two
they are not three like the concorus. I talked to the owner of my 78 I have everything down to the snow chains in the toe sack that they came in. She never had any work done on the car but there is no build sheet in it. I actually have the paperwork that the porter checked off when he washed the car.
I enjoy the cars I am looking at two more. These two make a total of ten 4th generation Novas I have owned. I always wanted a rally and ended up with two of them in the last year.The only difference I have noticed is the
badges and the grille. One of my cars has a am only radio and the other has am/fm radio. The rally nova gets alot of looks. My family has a total of four rally novas 1971 , 1972 , 1977 and 1978.

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[reo78rally]

Well, that's about as close to an original owner as we have been I think.
Do you have pictures of the cowl tags?

Pictures of the cars would be good too, always interested in seeing more original Rally's. Color schemes are interesting to see too.
Thanks

[jade76]

Definitely be cool to see pics of the tags, and the cars too! I'm going to take them and catalog them on my site as more are posted here. Hopefully we can figure out some of the codes. I'm willing to bet the 2 taillight Rallys were all produced in Tarrytown

reo78, from what I understand on the build sheets is that they could've been put anywhere, and maybe never put in at all (Under back seat, carpet, dash, cowl, behind kick panels). My 78 was original when I got it, interior untouched, but I didn't find one in it either. It's possible one was never put in it at the factory, or maybe it was in with original owners manual and paperwork which was already gone when I got it. I haven't removed the kick panels yet, so I'm hoping maybe it's in there, but not really counting on it.

[Horsepower]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k312/Horsepower_07/cowltag.jpg

http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k312/Horsepower_07/th_nova2bmp.jpg




78 Nova rally

[reo78rally]

Another Tarrytown NY car, with the Z2....
I think that might be the difference in these, except for the tail lights.
I still think you could get the Rally in any option car, Custom, Standard, Hatchback.....