: Difference between a 300 and a 400 series
16th-May-2006, 05:33 PM
Greetings fellow Nova guys (and ladies).
I just purchased our 1st Nova II. A 65 400 wagon. What is/are the differences between the the two models? We currently own a 68 RS 327 4 spd and have had numerous Chevelles. Yes, getting older and need a REALISTIC cruiser to haul family and puppies (which are family as well).
Any info/guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Jim & Lisa...Hickory Tavern,SC:beer:
16th-May-2006, 05:55 PM
Hey Repo Dude ;)
Welcome to Steve's... lotsa cool people ta help ya with info on yer new project... hope ya enjoy it here.
try this link for lots of good info, prolly help ya ;)
check in the "originality" forum, the "Web-Link Library"... an assortment of links for suppliers and tech info the guys have put together ta help...
i wish ya well...
Be Good !!! :D
16th-May-2006, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the response, but the link you sent me gave me no new info. Posted thread in the "originality" area but was removed?? multiple threads??
still have no clue why/what makes our 65 wagon a 400. Jim:confused:
16th-May-2006, 08:53 PM
Welcome fellow Longroofer !!!
As you might already know that 1st gen's were 300 and 400 series, while 2nd gen (66 and 67) were 100 and 400 series wagon's. (Just some food for thought. :))
I don't know the exact answer to your question, I see a lot of 400 series 2nd gen, having all the desirable options like Roofrack, PS Setup, Power Tailgate and rarer options like Remote Driverside mirror and Power Brake Booster.
I don't know if Rocker Molding and side trim play into it or not?!
I guess the 1 standout thing between the 2 models is the door panels (as far as 2nd gen go).
I hope some of this is helpful.
Flyer, Did you buy a 63 Wagon too??
(Forgive me, at the age of 30, my mind slips me sometimes...)
16th-May-2006, 08:59 PM
no, i had a line on one, but lost out on it :(
sorry Jim, yes, i deleted the multiple thread... the link i posted i hoped would help... not knowing the extent of your knowledge, i was hoping it might have been of help to you... the link library was mentioned in case you wondered the source of the link that was posted, there's more there that may or may not be of assistance to you...
Be Good :D
16th-May-2006, 09:08 PM
I am no expert by any means when it comes to the model numbers for 1st gen cars, but I thought I had seen somewhere on the site that a 400 model is a Chevy II "Nova", and a 300 is a Chevy II, but not a "Nova", as "Nova" was a trim package then.
Randy (how far off base am I??):confused:
16th-May-2006, 10:13 PM
And it is correct about the 300 not being a Nova. The 300 series in 63 has a step smaller beltline trim at the middle of the front door and rearward. The 400 series did not have an optional third seat in 62 and 63. I am pretty sure rocker molding was also not and an offered trim option.
17th-May-2006, 12:08 AM
The Nova 400 Series and Chevy II 100 series were offered in 1962-1967 but the 300 Series Chevy II was only offered in 1962 and 1963.
Most of the differences are:
Nova 400 Series-SS (63-67 only), hardtop, convertible (62-63 only), wagon, 4 door, 2 door sedan (62 and 64 only), carpet, side trim, chrome drip rail trim, front and rear arm rests, full wheel covers, no 4 cyl available (except Canadian built cars),
Chevy II 300 Series(62-63 only)- wagon, 4 door, 2 door sedan, Color coded Vinyl floor covering, side trim-but less of it and a slightly different design, chrome drip rail trim, front and rear arm rests, dog dish hubcaps,
Chevy II 100 Series-wagon, 4 door, 2 door sedan, Black Vinyl floor covering, no side trim, no chrome drip rail trim, front arm rests only and a different design, dog dish hubcaps, no cigarette lighter, no horn ring,
As the list shows, the differences were mostly cosmetic. Any model could be ordered with any engine and trans option, except 4 cyl in the Nova 400 in US cars.
The Nova 400 had the most trim and the Chevy II 100 Series had almost none. Door panels were also different in all three models. The 62-63 Chevy II 300 series wagon was the only wagon available with the third seat, although you could order a Chevy II 300 Series wagon with the third seat deleted.
Other options were only available in the Super Sport model like bucket seats and a console for powerglide and 4 speed cars (3 speed SS's didn't get a console but you could get bucket seats in the 62 Nova 400 hardtops and convertibles).
I'm sure there are many more differences but those are the ones that come to mind right now.
17th-May-2006, 12:13 AM
There was only a 300 series in 1962 and 1963. In 1964, the SS became a model unto itself, followed by a Nova 400 series and Chevy II 100 series, both of which offered wagons. 1965 was the same. In 1962 and 1963, it was the 300 series wagon that offered the 3rd seat facing the rear.
17th-May-2006, 08:05 AM
Is that you John ?!?!
(I thought you only hung out in the Sell/Buy area? :) :) )
You mentioned that the 100 series (ie. "ChevyII") wagons were pretty bare, but unless the options mentioned were specific to 1st gen's...
My 67 wagon is a 100 series, but came with side trim, rocker molding, carpet, chrome 3 bar with horn cap steering wheel, dash trim, power assist, yada yada yada. Now with that said, had manual tailgate, no PB, 100 series door panels, 100 series tailgate "honeycomb" piece and also has roofrack holes, but no roofrack.
and now that I think about it, it came from Las Vegas (as I found a couple casino coins with stars punched through them under the carpet). :)
17th-May-2006, 03:33 PM
No, John Piccolla is in Las Vegas, about 400 miles South of Reno. I'm not as familiar with the 66-67's as I am with the earlier cars but I don't know why your 100 Series Chevy II wagon has all the Nova trim. But, since it's almost 40 years old, any previous owner, or dealer for that matter, could have installed the upgrades.
Other upgrades, such as power brakes, power steering, roof racks, AC, seat belts, 4 way flashers, electric tailgates (except 3 seat wagons) were options that could be ordered on any model car from an SS to a 100 Series wagon.
17th-May-2006, 04:36 PM
(Me smacking myself in the forehead !!!)
Yes, John is in Las Vegas, why is it when I see "Reno" I always think of him?!
Now lets see if I can find my way home tonight !? :D
Ohio (I think ?!)
17th-May-2006, 06:58 PM
Well guys, this does have a luggage rack and pwr rear glass. Boy, all the responses jumped all over the place butit at least gives me an idea of what we got.
Next, with this having the 230 and powerglide, can I consider a extremely mild small block without installing a new clip?? Not saying we will do this, but actually have a 65' 327 sitt'n on a stand now and it would be nice to free up the stand for another BB project.
Also, how would an engine swap effect the value. With our Camaro's and Chevelle's an engine swap away from the original #'s matching would KILL IT !!!
thanks again, Jim:confused:
18th-May-2006, 09:07 PM
I will try to get some pic's posted in the next few days.. Needless to say with us just purchasing it.....will be months or more before on the road.. upkeep on the Camaro, final assembly on the 67 chicken,etc.. puts a wicked damper on the "car" budget. Jim