Help with 67Nova SS Value please

[Carl Stevenson]

I would like some help pricing a car.:confused: It is a 1967 Nova SS 327. It has a powerglide, power steering, power brakes and factory air. It has about 60,000 miles and NO rust. The original engine is apart and out. It needs paint and interior, but all numbers match.

If you would be willing to help me give me an idea please email stevensoncarl@hotmail.com or PM me here. The reason for doing it this way is I have seen a couple of "what's-it-worth" threads turn ugly. (Not on Steve's but on a couple of other forums!)

Thanks in advance.
Carl

[Carl Stevenson]

I have a little bit of input, but I'd sure like some more opinions please if you are willing guys.

Thanks
Carl

[n8.]

I'd scope ebay until something similar came on. Be sure to check the US listings in addition to the Canadian ones.

I've never seen things turn ugly or nasty here so your are welcome to post pictures. We're all here to help! :D:D:D

[batman09]

I've never seen things turn ugly or nasty here so your are welcome to post pictures. We're all here to help! :D:D:D
You haven't been on here long enough:D Just wait...you will:D

[n8.]

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[SparkysSS]

Sounds like you have a definite restoration project car, with the engine out and not running. Hard to place a value on it, considering the dollars it will need to at least get it roadworthy and driveable, and then later do the interior and paint, etc..
Prices are all over the planet on these cars, if you find the right person looking for one and is able to do the work himself you could make out good on the selling price, other guys will look at the work it needs and the cost and walk away and find one that needs less attention.
I've restored a couple, and if I had it to do over, I'd buy the right one already done.
Just my opinion.

[Carl Stevenson]

Sparky

You make a very good point about buying one done. For me that is not a financial option at this point. The main attraction to this car right now is the no rust part. Around here, that is pretty much never seen. I'm still on the fence on this one, but I have to make up my mind pretty soon.

Thanks for the input. I do appreciate it.

Carl

[SparkysSS]

Carl; sorry I misunderstood your question, I thought you were the seller not the buyer. Try not to see the car in your mind as "finished as when your done", but look at it as it sitting today, what you can do yourself and how long it will take and the cost to do things right. Make a list. Look at the pluses the car has going for it to figure the price. Alot of factory options, completeness, body condition. Then wiegh the negatives. What parts are missing or need replacing. The cost of the engine and drivetrain rebuild, suspension, brakes those types of things. Then there's the interior, seat covers, carpet, headliner, dashpad, etc.. And the paint and body work, which is not cheap anymore with the cost of supplies and paint.
Not trying to talk you out of buying it, just give you things to think about when you look at it and the cost. Thats why you see so many unfinished and uncompleted projects for sale that were started with good intentions, and end up basket cases. But there's good deals and bad deals to be had in those too.
Hope this helps you out, and good luck whichever way you decide to go.

[69SSAcadian]

I thought you were a seller too...you can ( or you did ) disregard my PM. :).

Does the seller not have a price in mind? If it's a local car and it has no rust it's worth a hard look but Sparky has some very valid points to consider.

Good luck!

[Carl Stevenson]

Thanks for all the help guys. I'm just waiting for pics of it. The car is a days drive away from me. It's a friend of mine who has it. I have first crack at the car. Once I see pics, I have to make up my mind. I feel it's pretty tough to find a 327 A/C SS project car, at least around here, that's for sure.

Carl

[rjy]

If you do buy it please post some pics. If you do not buy it still post the pics because maybe someone here would be interested. I would love to get my hands on a clean rust free nova wagon. I think there so cool. My uncle use to have one that was as clean as could be. If I only knew then what I think I know now.

[Carl Stevenson]

Still waiting on him to send pics. :rolleyes:

I will certainly post here if I decide not to buy, but I think he already has someone who will if I don't take it.

Carl

[Carl Stevenson]

Well, it's 5 months later now! I still haven't decided on the car, and he has not sold it yet. I did get a few pics, but it was pretty dark and dusty so they didn't turn out too great. However, he says it's rust free, 6X,XXX miles, factory air, 327 powerglide. The engine is out and apart with a rod knock since sometime in the 70's, but stored inside apparently. He had health problems this summer, and I didn't really have time or resources to buy it in the spring, but now I have sold one of my projects (GTO), so I have time and room and money now!

Any thoughts? I am thinking it can't be more than $7K to $9K, but please, oh please give me opinions!!! I am really undecided what to do...

Thanks

[L78 Nova]

Do It !!!!

[BOGIE]

Carl...Carl...Carl...!!! It's a No-Brainer man !!:eek: Assuming it's Canadian, you get documentation!! It's a 327 with air, PS,PB, and all tinted glass!! So the engine needs a rebuild...... the end restored value would put it in the 35-40 range for sure!!! IMO. Also, you didn't say the color scheme, that always matters with numbers cars!! I'm guessing he'd want 10-ish which sounds fair to me!!! Zero rust is a major plus!!

JUST....DO....IT!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Let us know, but do not hesitate!!....... good luck Ric (aka Bogie)

[jayblack]

Carl,


I bought 1967 two door coupe in April 2006 from a freind as well that had the car for about 10 years did nothing with it, this car is originally from Manitoba as well. I sold my 1987 Buick Grand National to buy this car and a new mini van, I payed $4500. for a complete some what running car, if my car was a SS I would have payed $7500. for it no higher considering the work involved.

Hope this helps

Jason

[Carl Stevenson]

L78---You keep out of this!:D You already bugged me enough to sell my GTO that I finally did! Now you want to make me buy another project to stash in the corner for 17 years!

Bogus/ClonerL79

It's not actually a Canadian car, but I intend to check it over pretty good. My buddy knows some of the history, so that should help.

Jason

Thanks for the help as well. I think I pretty much know I have to pull the trigger on this one, but it's about 600 miles south of me, so I can't just do it any time!

[CdnL79 Registry]

I think I pretty much know I have to pull the trigger on this one, but it's about 600 miles south of me, so I can't just do it any time!

Holy cow Carl, I put 600 miles south of Morris somewhere in South Dakota :eek: . Is this car in the U.S.? If so, based on an $8000 U.S. cost, add almost another $1000 in exchange, plus taxes, getting it home, etc. Just some more stuff to consider.
Bob

[Carl Stevenson]

Actually, a bit farther. It's into Nebraska a little bit. It's about 675 door to door. It's good friend, so I can buy it and then work out details later. That's a bonus. Exchange is sure favorable right now though... Taxes I have to pay sooner or later anyway, duty is free.

[Carl Stevenson]

Well, it looks like it's going to be 10K firm...

I have some thinking to do. I want to confirm it's a numbers match car for that price. He says it is missing one piece of the side trim on one of the front fenders. I suppose that is about impossible to find???

Carl

[BOGIE]

Well, it looks like it's going to be 10K firm...

Carl

Man am I good!!!!!........... still worth the buy though!!

Ric

[Carl Stevenson]

That's why I come here, for the humor!!!:) :) :)

Waiting to hear back from him with some good pics and more details. Is there a site anywhere that would have all the numbers for me to check if it's all matching? I have the Nova parts catalogue (GM) so that should help a lot, but GM never had the engine casting numbers in there, so I would need to find those somewhere else.

Not much question, if I would buy it then there would have to be a 4 speed conversion done on it.

[63sportcoupe]

Is there a site anywhere that would have all the numbers for me to check if it's all matching? I have the Nova parts catalogue (GM) so that should help a lot, but GM never had the engine casting numbers in there, so I would need to find those somewhere else.


Hey Carl,
I hope this will help you.http://www.chevymania.com/
Click on the Parts Id on the top of the page. And on the left hand side it has casting number info. on blocks, cranks, exhaust, heads, intakes, carbs, and block suffix codes.

[jayblack]

Carl,

Try www.nastyz28.com for engine decoding this is the site I use. Old car trader had a 1967 Nova listed for 16000. sanded down to bare metal very nice car, no drive train.


Jason

[batman09]

Carl,

Try www.nastyz28.com for engine decoding this is the site I use. Old car trader had a 1967 Nova listed for 16000. sanded down to bare metal very nice car, no drive train.


Jason

I hope thats an ss nova for $16k.Thats alot of money for a shell:eek:
Try www.mortec.com

[jayblack]

No I just check.$$$$$16900.take a look www.furfysauto.com.


Jason

[Carl Stevenson]

So I take a break for supper, do a bit of cleanup in the garage and come back to check if anyone has posted. WOW, thanks for ALL the help guys! I knew of a couple of those sites, but there is also some I've never seen. I'll be surfing for numbers a bit later...

[batman09]

No I just check.$$$$$16900.take a look www.furfysauto.com.


Jason
There's no 67 nova on that site:confused:

[Carl Stevenson]

I couldn't find it either.

[jayblack]

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=91057&adid=5053631

Try this.

I will try and copy and paste if I can.

Jason.

[batman09]

I would never pay 16.9k for a non ss nova body only:eek: .I'm not sure I would pay that kind of money for an ss body.bm

[jayblack]

Batman,

I agree with you that is alot of money for that car, I wonder what he payed for it 10k to 12k.:confused:


Jason

[batman09]

Batman,

I agree with you that is alot of money for that car, I wonder what he payed for it 10k to 12k.:confused:


Jason

I bet he payed 7-8k if it didn't have a drivetrain:eek:

[Carl Stevenson]

The way you guys are talking, I think you have convinced me that 10 is a good price for a rust free air conditioned 327 SS. I think I'm gonna have to part with some of my hard-earned loonies! (That's Canadian talk for "George Washingtons)!!!

[batman09]

The way you guys are talking, I think you have convinced me that 10 is a good price for a rust free air conditioned 327 SS. I think I'm gonna have to part with some of my hard-earned loonies! (That's Canadian talk for "George Washingtons)!!!
I'd say 10k is a very good price for a rust free ss.Restored these cars are getting upwards of 35k or more.I'd jump on that!!bm

[Carl Stevenson]

The way you guys are talking, I think you have convinced me that 10 is a good price for a rust free air conditioned 327 SS. I think I'm gonna have to part with some of my hard-earned loonies! (That's Canadian talk for "George Washingtons)!!!

[jayblack]

Carl,

Out of 1966 and 1967, 67 was the lowest production model year made and there were only 8,213 SS v-8 models made. I'm sure not to many of them had air conditioning.


Best of luck

Jason

[batman09]

Carl,
look here for lots of info....save it to your favorites
http://www.novaresource.org/sitemap.htm

[Shane65]

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=91057&adid=5053631

Try this.

I will try and copy and paste if I can.

Jason.

That car has been for sale for quite a while and I don't see it being sold at that price or anywhere near that price.
Carl, if the car sounds as good as the seller says, I think you'd be getting a worthy car a fair or even very good price. I'm sure if the seller advertised it, it would sell and he would be still getting calls after the sale.

[L78 Nova]

That's it Carl.... we've waited long enough ! I'm calling Herb to buy the nova.


Hee Hee

[Carl Stevenson]

Ha ha!!! Go ahead. Let me know when you leave his place with the car in tow. I'll call the highway patrol and tell them someone just stole my 67 Nova SS on a trailer, and headed north on I29:D :D :D

[L78 Nova]

Who said I'd bring it home ??

So when do we leave to pick it up?

[Carl Stevenson]

UPDATE*******

Middle of Sepetember he had changed his mind, decided to keep the car, and that was that. Last night I got a call that it is again for sale, and got about 50 pics today. It needs completely redone, but looks to be about 99% complete, and does indeed appear to be rust free. A/C (including manifolds) is there, missing the right front fender ss molding behind the wheel, radio missing, interior is shot, 327 'glide, engine out and apart.

Haven't heard the "final" price yet.

Hmmm...........

[Carl Stevenson]

Coupld of pics, and also----any comments on the cowl tag??? Anything I may be missing here?

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j173/1964GTO/673.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j173/1964GTO/671.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j173/1964GTO/672.jpg

[Bruce]

The only major thing that stands out is that a/c is not called out on the tag. The GM add-on looked very similar to the factory installed units; that should not be any reason not to buy the car.

Also, cannot tell from the picture, but there should be mouldings at the base of the roof as the car was originally two toned. If you want to truly restore it, they may be a bear to find.

Looks like a great project. Have fun!!

[Carl Stevenson]

So the A/C is not likely factory? Am I correct in remembering that a good close up shot of the heater control will tell the story? Seems to me I remember that the control is different on factory vs. dealer installed air. Something about the fan switch location, or something like that?

[undercvrSS]

Factory A/C cars had the fan control in the heater control panel. If you can post a pic on the unit, we can tell you too.

I think that's a good buy. I'd buy it for that.

[CdnL79 Registry]

For whatever reason, factory air was seldom shown on the cowl tag, but then lots of other options weren't either.

UndercvrSS is correct. Factory a/c had fan control on the heater panel, dealer installs it was on the evaporator unit under the dash.

This would be a rare 2 tone for an SS car...Sierra Fawn bottom with a Capri Cream top.

Bob

[undercvrSS]

For whatever reason, factory air was seldom shown on the cowl tag, but then lots of other options weren't either.

UndercvrSS is correct. Factory a/c had fan control on the heater panel, dealer installs it was on the evaporator unit under the dash.

This would be a rare 2 tone for an SS car...Sierra Fawn bottom with a Capri Cream top.

Bob


Bob, correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that Fisher body would alot of times, only list the option on the tag if they had to physically change something on the body for that specific option. Givin this is'nt always the case, but it would make sense. For example for a manual transmission, they would'nt have to modify the floor if it was a column shift car, or 3 speed car, so they may or may not have included it in the tag. Same with A/C, there was no body changes for that option. What are your thouhts? Have you ever heard this?

[CdnL79 Registry]

Bob, correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that Fisher body would alot of times, only list the option on the tag if they had to physically change something on the body for that specific option. Givin this is'nt always the case, but it would make sense. For example for a manual transmission, they would'nt have to modify the floor if it was a column shift car, or 3 speed car, so they may or may not have included it in the tag. Same with A/C, there was no body changes for that option. What are your thouhts? Have you ever heard this?

Yes, I've also heard this...no body modification for the option, then it wasn't on the cowl tag. I don't know that I've ever seen the a/c code (K) on a cowl tag, which makes me wonder why they even listed it. My 63 SS has factory air and it isn't shown on the tag, either.

I think it was also different on Canadian built cars where they used the actual RPO number on the cowl tag. My L79 has the A81 bucket seat headrests listed. Don't know what kind of body mod you'd need for those. This option isn't even listed for U.S. cowl tags.

Bob

[Carl Stevenson]

Just to clarify, this is not a Canadian car. It supposedly started life in Phoenix, then went to Texas.

It appears to be a dealer air unit, not factory. Not that I really am concerned one way or the other. Fact remains, it appears to be a rust free, 327 SS with air and around here, that's unusual!

I have verbally committed to buying it..................

Thanks a bunch for the input everyone!

[2doorpost]

You scored one heck of a car. Good Luck!