"Gasser" look third generation???

Something69
21st-August-2009, 08:19 PM
I am trying to get ideas for my side project 74 Nova. My 69 is my primary car but funding is slow for that project. I thought the "Gasser" look would be cheap and easy for my 74.

Let's see some pics of gasser novas third gen. I can't see to find any pics.

1963NovaSS
21st-August-2009, 09:20 PM
wasn't the gasser phase done by the mid 70's? Seems like gassers were predominately 50's & 60's cars...by the mid seventies the suspension technology had improved where it was passe. There are more that are into the gassers who would know more than i like Teddisnoke...
Tim

Something69
21st-August-2009, 10:37 PM
wasn't the gasser phase done by the mid 70's? Seems like gassers were predominately 50's & 60's cars...by the mid seventies the suspension technology had improved where it was passe. There are more that are into the gassers who would know more than i like Teddisnoke...
Tim


That does seem to be the case. I found lots of picture of 1st gens but no 3rd. It would still be a cool look even though it wasn't the normal thing.

nukledragger
22nd-August-2009, 02:18 AM
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/tobjo/DSC00617.jpg

Something69
22nd-August-2009, 10:32 AM
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/tobjo/DSC00617.jpg

That's perfect, Thanks.

big dog ss
22nd-August-2009, 03:19 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/bigdogss/whiteoldschoolnova.jpg

69NovaSS
22nd-August-2009, 04:26 PM
you dont see too many done that way. I'd like to see a few more pics as well but I honestly dont think they exist.

TuBaDuB
22nd-August-2009, 04:59 PM
Here's one. He's a member on here.http://stevesnovasite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1147975&postcount=13

64PRONOVA
22nd-August-2009, 05:10 PM
You can make a gasser out of just about anything if you want to but the best ones aren't primered. IMO unless it has a solid axle up front, it ain't a gasser. It's a wannabe. Some of the gassers out there are beautiful cars. Super-cool too but they don't come any cheaper than any other nice car.

Something69
22nd-August-2009, 05:35 PM
You can make a gasser out of just about anything if you want to but the best ones aren't primered. IMO unless it has a solid axle up front, it ain't a gasser. It's a wannabe. Some of the gassers out there are beautiful cars. Super-cool too but they don't come any cheaper than any other nice car.

The gasser look will be good enough for me with out spending all the money. I like it and might see how high I can get the front without a straight axle.

1963NovaSS
22nd-August-2009, 05:57 PM
all the cars pictured seem to be 68's or 69's....dont know about the mid seventies Nova done up that way..and IMO the straight axle is what makes a gasser...
Tim

bowtie0069
22nd-August-2009, 08:20 PM
you dont see too many done that way

Hmmm, I wonder why?
I love gassers, but those Nova's are not gassers, they were what Car Craft and some magazines coined "Street Freaks" I even like a lot of them, but there is just something about a 3rd gen Nova that just looks WRONG in that style to me. A first gen makes a great gasser, preferably with an axle, a 2nd gen makes a great altered wheelbase funny car style ride.....3rd gens to me work far better as low, fast street car style builds.
http://images19.fotki.com/v358/photos/4/42437/4240608/IMG_2242-vi.jpg
http://images19.fotki.com/v37/photos/4/42437/4240608/IMG_2319-vi.jpg
http://images19.fotki.com/v359/photos/4/42437/4240608/IMG_2360-vi.jpg
http://images19.fotki.com/v358/photos/4/42437/4240608/IMG_2554-vi.jpg

Stock72Nova
23rd-August-2009, 12:12 AM
Would look better as a day two style car then a gasser, I tossed the idea around for my 72. What I would do, yellow traction bars, torque thrust d's or slot mags, l88 hood, and jack the front up a little bit with some big block springs

74 hatchback
23rd-August-2009, 12:40 AM
Heres an idea of were to start, mine is done buget hotrod style, just add shackles and front axle to yours and with this treatment it will be a real freak. Good luck! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/marydoright/Dieters%20Nova/IMG_9682copy.jpg

Something69
23rd-August-2009, 09:05 AM
The freak look is what I am going for. I am tired of seeing the same Novas at every show I go to, they are all done the same way, stock or drag style. I want to do something different with this car, something to make people stop and look. Anti-freeze green with a heavy metal flake, Green tinted windows, maybe some crazy name on the side like "Go Go Godzilla" or "Plutonium". I am not taking myself that seriously so anything goes. Like I said this is not my primary project car, this is just for the hell of it.

I do think the straight axle will make or break the look so I will probably have to do it. I found a kit for a chevelle and one for a 1st gen nova, I wonder how hard it would be to modify it. The chevelle one would probably work but I am concerned about the axle width. I am not afraid of the work, I will try anything.

nukledragger
24th-August-2009, 01:55 PM
The freak look is what I am going for. I am tired of seeing the same Novas at every show I go to, they are all done the same way, stock or drag style. I want to do something different with this car, something to make people stop and look.

Good for you! Enjoy your car :yes:

1963NovaSS
24th-August-2009, 01:57 PM
The freak look is what I am going for. I am tired of seeing the same Novas at every show I go to, they are all done the same way, stock or drag style. I want to do something different with this car, something to make people stop and look. Anti-freeze green with a heavy metal flake, Green tinted windows, maybe some crazy name on the side like "Go Go Godzilla" or "Plutonium". I am not taking myself that seriously so anything goes. Like I said this is not my primary project car, this is just for the hell of it.

I do think the straight axle will make or break the look so I will probably have to do it. I found a kit for a chevelle and one for a 1st gen nova, I wonder how hard it would be to modify it. The chevelle one would probably work but I am concerned about the axle width. I am not afraid of the work, I will try anything. doing this theme is cool, just expecting to do it on an extreme budget may be unrealistic. Just the green flake paint you COULD cost you as much as the whole car costs...as an example, just painting my motorcycle copper flake, just the materials cost $1800...for a bike! To do a project right usually cost ****$ unless you can do all the work yourself (and perhaps have a skill you can barter with...)...good luck. If it was me i think a pro touring theme would be more going with the car....
Tim

bowtie0069
24th-August-2009, 03:41 PM
just the materials cost $1800

Uh, what did you buy that cost $1800? HOK flake is about $40 for enough to do a car, and you could buy a whole lot of color to go along with it for that kind of money. Just curious.

1963NovaSS
24th-August-2009, 04:39 PM
Uh, what did you buy that cost $1800? HOK flake is about $40 for enough to do a car, and you could buy a whole lot of color to go along with it for that kind of money. Just curious.

KP2CFa/KP2CFb primer...Hok Sealer/KU150 catalyst...HoK Cinnamon pearl shimrin...HoK SG150 flake carrier/HOK dark gold flake/apricot flake...UC35 clear/KU150 catalyst/RU310 reducer...UK12 Pagan Gold candy+ KK root beer Kandy concentrate/KU150 catalyst/RU310 reducer....more UC35 clear....color sand....BC25 black base...12K white gold....tangelo shimrin...more UC35 clear....pinstripe.... more UC35 clear.....color sand then last coat of UC35 clear....then color sand again...1000g sand, 1200g, 1500g, 2000g, buff w/ perfect it....buff with finish glaze....all materials added up were at retail all HoK on a 2000 HD road king bagger with tank, f.fender, r. fender, both saddlebags & lids, bag to fender fillers. side covers....

quality paint materials cost a ton these days....this was done 100% House of Kolor materials. that doesn't include rags, tape, wash thinners & consumables. To do a car with a flake paint & Kandy would cost way more....
Tim


PS sorry about the thread jack....

Something69
24th-August-2009, 06:02 PM
Thanks for the input guys. Now that this idea is in my head I can't shake it. I have to do this one way or another. I never liked going with the flow and this car is going to be crazy, silly and insane. I will post pics of the build as it develops. I appreciate everyones ideas, especially those who like it, you really pushed me in the right direction. Those who opposed had good ideas too but I don't want to be like everyone else. I know that's the way our country is pointed and we are all expected to embrace this new mediocrity being pushed on us in our schools and by this liberal government, but I say screw that and do it different.

Wow, sorry about that guys I will step off the soap box now and get to work on the car, I'll post pics soon. And again thanks for the input.

Something69
24th-August-2009, 09:37 PM
Hmmm, I wonder why?
I love gassers, but those Nova's are not gassers, they were what Car Craft and some magazines coined "Street Freaks" I even like a lot of them, but there is just something about a 3rd gen Nova that just looks WRONG in that style to me. A first gen makes a great gasser, preferably with an axle, a 2nd gen makes a great altered wheelbase funny car style ride.....3rd gens to me work far better as low, fast street car style builds.
http://images19.fotki.com/v358/photos/4/42437/4240608/IMG_2242-vi.jpg
http://images19.fotki.com/v37/photos/4/42437/4240608/IMG_2319-vi.jpg
http://images19.fotki.com/v359/photos/4/42437/4240608/IMG_2360-vi.jpg
http://images19.fotki.com/v358/photos/4/42437/4240608/IMG_2554-vi.jpg

All the same car, different colors and different wheels. Other than that all the same. They all blend together after awhile and nothing is making me remember them. Not the direction I want to go in with this project. Thanks for the idea though. They are cool cars but not for me.

zz572
24th-August-2009, 09:57 PM
The freak look is what I am going for. I am tired of seeing the same Novas at every show I go to, they are all done the same way, stock or drag style. I want to do something different with this car, something to make people stop and look. Anti-freeze green with a heavy metal flake, Green tinted windows, maybe some crazy name on the side like "Go Go Godzilla" or "Plutonium". I am not taking myself that seriously so anything goes. Like I said this is not my primary project car, this is just for the hell of it.

I do think the straight axle will make or break the look so I will probably have to do it. I found a kit for a chevelle and one for a 1st gen nova, I wonder how hard it would be to modify it. The chevelle one would probably work but I am concerned about the axle width. I am not afraid of the work, I will try anything.



Heres my dads 72 nova. Its the pro touring look on a budget :yes::D

http://i39.tinypic.com/331zpli.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/34pdoya.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/e5fv2x.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/9fvczc.jpg

Something69
26th-August-2009, 07:51 AM
I ordered plans for the straight axle. We will see what kind of project this will be. Will post more soon.

Siva64
27th-August-2009, 01:10 PM
This sounds like a great project, I especially liked some of your paint ideas, very cool! I agree that that the Gen 3s wouldn't be a car you would normally think of as a gasser, but I think if you're careful, it could work! Get ahold of every Car Craft & Popular Hot Rodding you can from about 68-72 as a start, and also study the 55 Chevy from the movie "Two-Lane Blacktop" - under the lousy primer job is a state of the art Gasser car from around 1971 - it has a straight axle, but notice how it's not jacked to the sky. The best Gasser "stance" is almost impossible to describe; you know it when you see it - it seems like the best ones are actually pretty level when viewed in profile, and you have to use older bias plys and/or slicks (modern, lower profile and fat radials look terrible on these cars, it ruins the whole look - all just my opinion, but wheels/tires/stance will make or break this:)). Check out the thread on the "barn/carport" find in the Gen 3 forum, great example of an old school paint job you are talking about. Good luck, keep us posted on the progress!!

Something69
27th-August-2009, 08:01 PM
This sounds like a great project, I especially liked some of your paint ideas, very cool! I agree that that the Gen 3s wouldn't be a car you would normally think of as a gasser, but I think if you're careful, it could work! Get ahold of every Car Craft & Popular Hot Rodding you can from about 68-72 as a start, and also study the 55 Chevy from the movie "Two-Lane Blacktop" - under the lousy primer job is a state of the art Gasser car from around 1971 - it has a straight axle, but notice how it's not jacked to the sky. The best Gasser "stance" is almost impossible to describe; you know it when you see it - it seems like the best ones are actually pretty level when viewed in profile, and you have to use older bias plys and/or slicks (modern, lower profile and fat radials look terrible on these cars, it ruins the whole look - all just my opinion, but wheels/tires/stance will make or break this:)). Check out the thread on the "barn/carport" find in the Gen 3 forum, great example of an old school paint job you are talking about. Good luck, keep us posted on the progress!!

You hit the nail on the head. This project will have to be done just right, it's all in the stance. Wheel and tire combo is important too and needs to be period correct. My last hurdle in my planning will be the hood scoop. Since this is a low budget project I am using my existing carb/intake combo so a fancy fuel system is out of the question. Any ideas?

And the barn/carport find is awesome. A period correct paint scheme will be awesome.

Something69
27th-August-2009, 08:05 PM
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/tobjo/DSC00617.jpg

This stance is awesome and what I am going to shoot for. Maybe ditch the front bumper. Mismatch the wheels, shinny old cragars up front and wide offset steelies out back.

dougy68nova
27th-August-2009, 09:09 PM
got the pics from here but don't remember who to give credit too

Something69
27th-August-2009, 10:36 PM
got the pics from here but don't remember who to give credit too

The stance isn't quite right but it is something I can work with. I like it.

Siva64
1st-September-2009, 01:57 PM
Love the wheel/tire combo you have in mind, the old skinny Cragars would look great on this - keep in mind that the early Cragars are different from what they make now - they're more flat and square on the spoke. Find an old set and have them carefully rechromed (the chrome on the new ones is terrible anyway!) You might also check with Wheelsmith in Santa Ana, CA, I THINK he has a Cragar style center that might be just like the old ones. Honestly, you might consider running them in back as well, the mismatch is sometimes cool, but a chrome reverse IMO is too early sixties for this car (all the cool guys in my neighborhood ran a full set of cragers in the 70's). Carefully select an original style set of "polyglass"/ bias ply late 60's tires for this; don't even put modern radials on there! Not sure if this is period correct or not, but see if anyone was still running injection stacks (especially the ones that run slightly crooked all different ways) in the late sixties - there are a bunch of conversions now on these set-ups to run modern fuel injection, and you would not NEED a hood scoop to hide that beautiful set-up. Man, maybe I need to build a gasser car myself! (and I'm a total lowrider guy!) Keep us posted!!:yes:

Something69
3rd-September-2009, 11:15 AM
Man, maybe I need to build a gasser car myself! (and I'm a total lowrider guy!) Keep us posted!!:yes:

I am a total lowrider and pro-touring guy too. But one day a friend of mine and I were trying to figure out what to do to this ugly 74 I have. We were tossing around ideas and the "Gasser" thing is what spawned. Since then I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. It's going to be bad ***. "GO GO GODZILLA"...

Siva64
5th-September-2009, 01:32 PM
I am a total lowrider and pro-touring guy too. But one day a friend of mine and I were trying to figure out what to do to this ugly 74 I have. We were tossing around ideas and the "Gasser" thing is what spawned. Since then I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. It's going to be bad ***. "GO GO GODZILLA"...

Since you say you are a lowrider guy, I couldn't resist posting this up - last time I posted it, it got a really negative response, so I figure it must be cool!!!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/u979706/4door1.jpg

slow3oh
5th-September-2009, 02:46 PM
im all for seeing a gasser 3rd gen.

a lot of the guys at my shop always try to convince me i should go the gasser way with my car.

I think it would be really cool but ill save that for the next project :D

big dog ss
5th-September-2009, 04:31 PM
Since you say you are a lowrider guy, I couldn't resist posting this up - last time I posted it, it got a really negative response, so I figure it must be cool!!!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/u979706/4door1.jpg

:puke::puke::puke::puke::no:

Something69
5th-September-2009, 06:41 PM
Since you say you are a lowrider guy, I couldn't resist posting this up - last time I posted it, it got a really negative response, so I figure it must be cool!!!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/u979706/4door1.jpg

I am all for being original but that is a bit of a stretch. Looks photoshoped too. To each is own I guess, but it is ugly.

Baddbob
15th-September-2009, 10:18 PM
I am all for being original but that is a bit of a stretch. Looks photoshoped too. To each is own I guess, but it is ugly.

That pic is almost ugly enough to send this thread to the dump, nobody should see it IMO.