Steering box replacement

1969BlueNova
23rd-July-2009, 08:21 PM
I am wanting to replace my factory steering box with a mid 80s Camaro one.

My questions are:
Do all mid 80s Camaros have the same ratio box or are Z28s different?
What year Camaros are ideal for there steering box?
Does anyone sell fittings to screw into the Camaro box since it is metric so I can use my factory power steering lines and if so whom?

Thanks

supr78nova
23rd-July-2009, 10:01 PM
Car Craft did a writeup on swapping steering boxes a while back. Here's a link to the article.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_0901_gm_steering_box_upgrade/power_steering.html

Remember to reuse your original pitman arm if you swap boxes. I think Earl's or Russel makes fittings to adapt to the metric boxes so you can retain your factory lines. IROC and Trans Am GTA have different boxes than other 3rd gen f-bodies.

Dan

SLEEPER
23rd-July-2009, 10:08 PM
Also 92-98 Jeep Grand Cherokees have a 12.7 to 1 fast ratio, high effort box that bolts in.

1969BlueNova
24th-July-2009, 09:41 AM
Thanks guys exactly what I was wanting info wise.

This is why this site is awesome...:D

1969BlueNova
24th-July-2009, 02:23 PM
One more question:

Are the Jeep boxes smaller or bigger than the factory steering box?:confused:

Also, does the factory rag joint fit or do I need to get a differant one on this conversion?

1969BlueNova
25th-July-2009, 11:41 AM
Does anyone know the answers? I just want to be sure of what I need before I buy the box.

supr78nova
25th-July-2009, 03:11 PM
They are all saginaw type steering boxes. The differences are the internal ratios (most are 12.7:1), steering input effort and the internal steering stops which determine the total travel. Externally they will all mount up the same, but the differences between each are internal and that will determine which one you ultimately choose. Any of the quick ratio boxes would make a great deal of difference over the factory box in the car now. The performance G-bodies (Monte SS/ GN/ 442) have steering stops that work better with the steering systems on novas, although others would work nearly as well.

Dan

SLEEPER
25th-July-2009, 06:33 PM
The Jeep requires a different rag joint, 30 spline I think. Some Chevy trucks have them but I forget the years. Box is the same size. Suppose to have a nice feeling steering effort and internal stops suited for Nova's.

Philip
25th-July-2009, 07:04 PM
If I owned a 3rd gen it would get one of the new Delphi steering gears. 14:1 and 12.7:1 ratios available, built to be a bolt in, no adaptors needed and a lot smaller in size then the older GM gears. price is around $340 depending on vendor.

1969BlueNova
27th-July-2009, 10:04 AM
If I owned a 3rd gen it would get one of the new Delphi steering gears. 14:1 and 12.7:1 ratios available, built to be a bolt in, no adaptors needed and a lot smaller in size then the older GM gears. price is around $340 depending on vendor.


Where can I get one of these Delphi units that just bolt in without modifications.:confused: