i have not made up my mind up on the color of the wilwood calipers.
i will have 5 star rims 18 inch in front 19 in the rear.large openings so the brakes will be seen.
black? is it very noticable ?
polished? my wheels will also be polished.will it stand out or just blend into the rim? also lots of cleaning
red? or is it too bright?
i have not made up my mind on the color of my car once its ready for paint but i know it wont be red.
i have nothing against red.i just dont want my nova to be red.
i will order my clip on monday.so if any of you have pics of your ride with wilwoods i would like to see them.
fasteddie
3rd-June-2009, 01:40 AM
Personally I dont' understand why anyone would want their calipers to be real noticable. The wheel is far better looking then a caliper so why take the focus away from that with a bright colored caliper? I say go balck so they dont stand out like a sore thumb!!:yes:
novanutcase
3rd-June-2009, 02:43 AM
Personally I dont' understand why anyone would want their calipers to be real noticable. The wheel is far better looking then a caliper so why take the focus away from that with a bright colored caliper? I say go balck so they dont stand out like a sore thumb!!:yes:
I think otherwise. Nice wheels will be noticed no matter how bright the caliper is. I think a contrasting colored caliper pulls the eye beyond just the wheel and into those internals you've worked so hard to paint and detail!
Here's a couple with red. These aren't the rims I'm going to be running, but you get the idea. The thing I like about the red calipers is they look good with a lot of colors. My neighbor has a black Aston Martin which has red calipers, it looks sweet.
I bought black. Hopefully my car will be black, see how the body work goes. But I like black behind the very nice billet specialties wheels. Gonna look good. JR
nova65ss
4th-June-2009, 07:13 PM
MIne are black too. I like the red on certain color cars but not with a red car.:no: You can kind of see them in this pic, I did not want them to stand out either.
MIne are black too. I like the red on certain color cars but not with a red car.:no: You can kind of see them in this pic, I did not want them to stand out either.
Those wheels look great. What size is that on the rear. Do you have a narrowed rear end? Nice look!! JR
nova65ss
5th-June-2009, 10:23 AM
Those wheels look great. What size is that on the rear. Do you have a narrowed rear end? Nice look!! JR
Thanks, they are 17 x 8 and the rear has been narrowed a couple of inches.
firebird77clone
7th-June-2009, 01:06 AM
I love it when the calipers match the car color.
But if they don't match, then they should fade into the back ground.
Since you don't like red, you best go black.
batman09
7th-June-2009, 01:20 AM
Here's a couple with red. These aren't the rims I'm going to be running, but you get the idea. The thing I like about the red calipers is they look good with a lot of colors. My neighbor has a black Aston Martin which has red calipers, it looks sweet.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/PICT00218.jpg
why are your rotors black?bm
nova65ss
7th-June-2009, 08:59 AM
Wilwoods come that way BM. It is a coating that wears off once you use them.
Stroker
7th-June-2009, 09:12 AM
I like black. All the metric tuners running around with their ultra low profile tires and huge rims have turned me off of coloured calipers.
batman09
7th-June-2009, 09:53 AM
Wilwoods come that way BM. It is a coating that wears off once you use them.
Thats cool!!I never knew that....I kinda like it!!bm
JRouche
7th-June-2009, 09:43 PM
Thats cool!!I never knew that....I kinda like it!!bm
Yeah, their standard coating is an electro coating. It wears off the wear surface but stays on all the other areas of the disc. Heat doesnt change it. With the EPA here they went to the E-coat instead of the zinc coat. And you can still have the zinc discs at about a 50 dollar premium for a set of two.. JR
I think otherwise. Nice wheels will be noticed no matter how bright the caliper is. I think a contrasting colored caliper pulls the eye beyond just the wheel and into those internals you've worked so hard to paint and detail!
Personally, I don't want people looking past the wheel. The wheel is the focal point. Besides, the bright red calipers would look like two out of place floating dots when looking at the whole car. I'd only use red calipers if it was on a red car and even then it'd be iffy; black on everything else.
Personally, I don't want people looking past the wheel. The wheel is the focal point. Besides, the bright red calipers would look like two out of place floating dots when looking at the whole car. I'd only use red calipers if it was on a red car and even then it'd be iffy; black on everything else.
OK, and this isn't necessarily directed at you, but why would someone get black calipers so that it doesn't distract from the wheel but run crossdrilled and slotted rotors?:turn::rolleyes::)
John
JRouche
8th-June-2009, 10:06 PM
OK, and this isn't necessarily directed at you, but why would someone get black calipers so that it doesn't distract from the wheel but run crossdrilled and slotted rotors?:turn::rolleyes::)
John
Hey John, Ill answer that form my own opinion. I got the black cals and drilled rotors. For me the cals would be the only thing that is not either black or silver metal color on the entire car. And really, red might look pretty nice, Im just trying to picture the final look in my head and it seems they would be outta place, on my car. Like a big red sore thumb that I just bashed with the BFH LOL Oh, and for a tight wad like myself the red cals were a lil more money :) JR
fasteddie
9th-June-2009, 01:17 AM
OK, and this isn't necessarily directed at you, but why would someone get black calipers so that it doesn't distract from the wheel but run crossdrilled and slotted rotors?:turn::rolleyes::)
John
Maybe because cross drilled and slotted rotors cool better and have better braking overall?
itslow
9th-June-2009, 03:44 PM
OK, and this isn't necessarily directed at you, but why would someone get black calipers so that it doesn't distract from the wheel but run crossdrilled and slotted rotors?:turn::rolleyes::)
I don't understand the cross-drilled rotors, either; they aren't anymore effective than slotted rotors and are prone to stress cracking. If anything, they're less effective due to the reduction in friction area and thermal mass.
As far as I know, it's no longer possible to get plain rotors from Wilwood. I certainly would have gone w/ plain ones if they'd been available on the GTO kits. Fortunately the few (6) slots that are present are rather unobtrusive compared to the numerous (dozens) slots on other brands.
nova65ss
9th-June-2009, 05:03 PM
To me where I originally would see red calipers was in the ricer scene!:devil:
The drilled and slotted rotors do not work any better but they do look better in my opinion. It wasn't that I was trying to hide them as much as I did not want red.
Vinco
9th-June-2009, 05:49 PM
In my experience, slotted rotors actually do help in braking, but drilled compromises the integrity of the rotors.
Also, my opinion leans toward red for calipers. Personally I pay much more attention to the brakes on a car than to its wheels. I'd wager that most anyone who has ever participated in either an open track day on a road course or an autocross might have the same philosophy on brakes. A sweet pair of 6-pot calipers on ginormous rotors gets me excited!
JRouche
9th-June-2009, 11:09 PM
In my experience, slotted rotors actually do help in braking, but drilled compromises the integrity of the rotors.
So you have experienced a failure with drilled rotors.. Ive read all the stories, but havent actually run into a guy first hand that has experienced it. Tell me what happened??? Im all ears.. Did the rotors actually break?? Or did you remove them prior to the fracture.
The new wilwood rotors I just got are drilled. And they have a really nice radius on the holes. And from what I have read and read they arent cast in place but heck, they sure dont look machined. Ive seen alot of machined surfaces and this radius was unlike any machined surface I have seen. Maybe its cast with dimples and a final drilling process is done.
But back to your drilled rotor failure???? Were they solid rotors?? Any pics. Was it a pretty bad stress cracking from the hole.. School us here.. Show the carnage :) Always like to learn from the side lines of another guys mishaps, just so I CAN repeat them :D JR
itslow
10th-June-2009, 09:49 AM
So you have experienced a failure with drilled rotors.. Ive read all the stories, but havent actually run into a guy first hand that has experienced it. Tell me what happened??? Im all ears.. Did the rotors actually break?? Or did you remove them prior to the fracture.
I haven't personally had one of these failures - I've never used drilled rotors - but have seen photos of rotors like this in the past posted on my Impala forum of guys who've actually had cracking develop.
The rotors will develop cracks that run from hole-to-hole through the thickness of the rotor or one "half" if a vented rotor. Usually there are only a few small cracks and people replace the rotors before it fails completely, but if left unchecked they could propagate and cause a more serious damage. If you're brakes are only for the "bling" and won't ever get used to their design intent, you're probably OK with the drilled rotors. If you plan on racing and using the brakes hard, though, I'd reconsider.
Vinco
10th-June-2009, 06:55 PM
So you have experienced a failure with drilled rotors.. Ive read all the stories, but havent actually run into a guy first hand that has experienced it. Tell me what happened??? Im all ears.. Did the rotors actually break?? Or did you remove them prior to the fracture.
The new wilwood rotors I just got are drilled. And they have a really nice radius on the holes. And from what I have read and read they arent cast in place but heck, they sure dont look machined. Ive seen alot of machined surfaces and this radius was unlike any machined surface I have seen. Maybe its cast with dimples and a final drilling process is done.
But back to your drilled rotor failure???? Were they solid rotors?? Any pics. Was it a pretty bad stress cracking from the hole.. School us here.. Show the carnage :) Always like to learn from the side lines of another guys mishaps, just so I CAN repeat them :D JR
In re-reading my post, perhaps I misspoke a bit. More precisely, I do have direct track experience comparing slotted rotors to plain, but not with drilled rotors. I've seen pictures and heard horror stories about drilled rotor failures, but no firsthand experience.
JRouche
10th-June-2009, 11:59 PM
Hey guys. Thats been my experience also. Only heard second hand, and really not that much actually. In relation to how many drilled rotors are sold and used. But are they used for racing?? Prolly not.. Still a low failure rate for street cars and thats where they are used.
And bling??? Yeah, thats all it is really. Cause the race aspect of drilled rotors goes out the door if the racers arent using them. So it is a style issue.. And that being the case, so are many of the parts and modifications we do to our cars, its about the look and performance. If a guy likes the look of drilled rotors then it works..
So, with that Im sure the folks at wilwood may be able to give some input to why they sell the drilled rotors still. Weight or something :rolleyes: And pretty sure they have the failure rates also, damm!! They arent sharing that info LOL So Ill be the first to post here when my rotors crack, thats for sure.. Then there will be another second hand story to pass along.. JR